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Tangle
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Message 12 of 50 (721098)
03-03-2014 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by mike the wiz
03-03-2014 2:48 PM


I assume that the SA legal system, as a Brit built thing, requires the 'beyond reasonable doubt' level of certainty to achieve a conviction. These days that is translated by the judge into 'a such that you are sure' direction to the jury.
Without any witnesses and seemingly only circumstantial evidence, that's going to be a hard climb for the prosecution.
Also, I heard that he's claiming to have 'been on his stumps' at the time. I suspect that that will play a role.

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 16 of 50 (721109)
03-03-2014 4:13 PM
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03-03-2014 3:45 PM


Mike, dear chap, you know only what has been reported in the bits of the press that you've read. You don't have a gut reaction about this unless it's from a bad curry.
I really don't like the idea of a single judge - that's not right.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 40 of 50 (739214)
10-21-2014 5:40 PM


My forecast was eight years. But I didn't know about the one sixth rule, so on balance I think it is on the lenient side. But also - and absolutely crucially - I was not there to hear the arguments.
But overall, I was extremely impressed by the entire process - utterly impossible for a black woman judge to condemn a white man of such celebrity 20 years ago - and to do it in such a thoughtful, balanced and considered way is something the world should give thanks for.
The actual term of imprisonment doesn't really matter much, he's finacialy broken, has lost his livelihood, his friens and good name . Plus he's got to live with this for the rest of his life.
cf. OJ

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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