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Message 152 of 206 (725409)
04-26-2014 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by Faith
04-26-2014 7:30 PM


Re: science versus mental conjuring
So I suppose everybody's now going to chase the red herrings of the definitions of "theory" and "proof" and give us the usual tiresome pedantic renditions instead of recognizing that I'm using them correctly and usefully in this context.

You are incapable of learning, so I won't go over the details again.

The context is interpretive or historical science versus testable experimental science, and the ludicrousness of the current interpretation of the strata and the fossils, as well as the complete unprovability of the ToE. It's all assertion and bullying, not fact.

Your mind is like a steel trap--rusted shut.

You are attempting to warp the universe to fit an old tribal myth, and it gets more and more ludicrous as you jump from thread to thread twisting anything you can to try and make it fit. Sorry, it does not fit.

And this "real" science vs. "historical" science is just the latest effort on the part of creationists to negate hundreds of years of scientific findings and even to turn back the Enlightenment. But it will fail, just as the other attempts have failed because the evidence does not support the creationist beliefs.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.


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Message 203 of 206 (758935)
06-05-2015 11:19 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by dwise1
06-05-2015 10:46 PM


Calculus and not...
Have you studied calculus yet? Have you gotten to partial differentiation in the third semester?

Yes, I took three semesters of calculus!

Unfortunately, all three were all Calculus 101.

There are some minds that grasp Calculus, and some that don't. I got lost about the time the professor said, "It is intuitively obvious that..."

But after that I managed a MA and Ph.D. in Anthropology, with specialties in Physical Anthropology and Archaeology, quite easily. Those fields fit!

If you take off your skin and all that other useless stuff I can tell a great deal about you just from looking at and measuring your bones! Don't believe it? Just try me! And the math I'll use is far from calculus.

With all your calculus training, could you do the same?


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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