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Author Topic:   Could asteroids lead to the extinction of YECism ?
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Message 17 of 137 (722332)
03-20-2014 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Diomedes
03-20-2014 11:18 AM


Re: Origin of asteroids in the Flood
As most are aware, the moon's circular rotation matches its orbit of the Earth. Which means that we only ever have one face of the moon pointing towards the Earth. If the fountains of the deep were responsible for the cratering, they could not have produced craters on the dark side of the moon.

Before the fountains were opened, the moon's circular rotation did not match its orbit of the Earth. The bombardment of "asteroids" from the fountains opening up and blasting rocks to the moon slowed down the moon's rotational speed to the point where it matched up with its orbital speed.


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Message 20 of 137 (722345)
03-20-2014 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Diomedes
03-20-2014 12:43 PM


Re: Origin of asteroids in the Flood
Of course! How did I miss that.

In order to be a creationist, you gotta be... uh, creative.


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Message 21 of 137 (722346)
03-20-2014 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Dr Adequate
03-20-2014 12:28 PM


Re: Origin of asteroids in the Flood
Wow, is there anything the Flood can't do?

Actually admit to being magical, apparently.


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Message 25 of 137 (722366)
03-20-2014 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Diomedes
03-20-2014 3:08 PM


Re: Origin of asteroids in the Flood
I have never actually quite understood that notion myself.

Yeah, its ridiculous. Oh, animals gradually changing throughout generations? No, that's impossible, there must be some intelligence involved. But a flood that can shoot rocks to the moon? Yeah, totally natural, no supernatural involvement.

What. The. Fuck.

I find it strange that many YECs try to pigeon-hole science into their belief system. It's almost as if they are trying to give 'legitimacy' to their worldview by leveraging the current knowledge of science and its proven track record.

Its gotten to the point where it is undeniable that science works. We put a man on the frickin' moon, n'everything.

Yet at the same time, belittling science as being inaccurate or arrogant. Very strange disconnect.

I just find it harder and harder to believe that these people are sincere. Like, they've got to be kidding us, right?

If God can perform miracles, than just say so. You can say anything in that case. The Flood could have happened, two of every animal could have repopulated the Earth, Noah could have lived 900 years, etc. if you invoke miracles. The notion is part in parcel with the belief system, so I fail to see why so many YECs are hesitant in utilizing it.

If God used magic to make the flood happen and then disguised the earth to look like the flood never happened, then he would not be being a very nice and honest god. More of a prankster, in fact. Like Loki.

They can't be having that...


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Message 47 of 137 (722498)
03-21-2014 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Diomedes
03-20-2014 8:01 PM


Re: Origin of asteroids in the Flood
They could always just argue that it is a 'test of faith'.

God's all: "Hehe, let's see who believes in me now!"

So there you'll be, standing at the pearly gates, and they're gonna be laughing their asses off at you: "What? You fell for the flying lizards? You're such a dumbass. That was a joke. Pff, flying lizards How could you fall for that?"

Shamelessly ripped from Bill Hicks.

Oh, found a quote:

quote:
Twelve thousand years old. But I actually asked this guy, "OK, dinosaur fossils-- how does that fit into your scheme of life? What's the deal?" He goes:

"God put those here to test our faith."
"I think God put you here to test my faith, dude. I think I've figured this out."

Does that-- That's what this guy said. Does that bother anyone here? The idea that God might be fucking with our heads? Anyone have trouble sleeping restfully with that thought in their head? God's running around burying fossils: "Ho ho! We'll see who believes in me now, ha ha! I'm a prankster God. I am killing me, ho ho ho!" You know? You die, you go to St. Peter:

"Did you believe in dinosaurs?"
"Well, yeah. There were fossils everywhere. (trapdoor opens) Aaaaarhhh!"
"You fuckin' idiot! Flying lizards? You're a moron. God was fuckin' with you!"
"It seemed so plausible, aaaaaahh!"
"Enjoy the lake of fire, fucker!"

-Bill Hicks



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Message 136 of 137 (723362)
03-31-2014 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by kbertsche
03-30-2014 9:11 PM


Re: Old Earth views of some Christian leaders
Are you suggesting that the mass-energy that makes up our universe did NOT have a beginning, that it was eternal? If so, how do you reconcile this with our universe having a beginning?

Our Universe exists at every single point in the past time direction, but there are a finite number of them. There is no point in time where the Universe does not exist.


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