* It can deposit sedimentary rocks in such a way as to accord perfectly with the expectations of geologists, to the extent, even, of perfectly mimicking subaerial deposition.
* It can give igneous rocks the appearance of age in such a way as to accord perfectly with the expectations of geologists.
* It can arrange fossils within the rocks in such a way as to accord perfectly with the expectations of biologists.
* It can create asteroids to age the face of the Moon and the planets in such a way as to accord perfectly with the expectations of astronomers.
And how does it do all this?
Ah, I see.
And it does all this without God mentioning it in the Bible, because although he agrees with YECs he also wants them to look like idiots. So he carefully gave the waters of the Flood these miraculous powers to fake the appearance of an old Earth and of evolution, but didn't mention this anywhere in his Word. He's such a prankster, isn't he?
Of course what I find absolutely astonishing is how phenomena that could only be the result of a one-time event involving a huge quantity of water, which laid down SEPARATE DIFFERENT SEDIMENTS with DEAD THINGS buried in them, get explained as enormously long eras of time in which ONLY those sediments were laid down (as if the Mississippian period was the period of Redwall Limestone or whatever its sediment happens to be and only redwall limestone was ever laid down in those multiplied millions of years) and ONLY those creatures buried in that sediment were alive during that "time period" and so on. Now THAT is true magic for you.
Hey, remember how you don't know anything about geology? If this has slipped your mind, consult any of the threads in which you discuss geology.
Once a scientist is committed to a particular theory of age then that's what the scientist "sees" wherever he or she looks. Perfectly understandable.
Creationists are not, in fact, "perfectly understandable". You know that asteroid strikes are rare. How many new craters (big enough that we can see them) have appeared on the Moon in your lifetime? Your father's? Your grandfathers'? It just doesn't happen that often. Taking this at face value, it took a long time for the Moon to get that beat up. It takes a rather special sort of mind to confront the evidence and say: "Ah, clearly this was caused very rapidly as a consequence of the Earth flooding." To describe creationists as halfwitted religious zealots names the defect but does not provide actual insight into the condition.
Me, I don't know yet what to make of the asteroids. It makes sense to me that they would be connected with the Fall or the Flood in some way because they are a destructive phenomenon, but how they came about I haven't studied yet.
I guess "in some way" is a refinement of your previous "somehow" theory.
What's really amazing is that you can swallow the utterly stupendously ridiculous status quo theory while ridiculing the Flood.
To you, the ability to understand basic geology may indeed seem amazing, verging on the supernatural. For me it's trivial --- as subjects go, it's a lot easier than advanced math.
Thank you VERY much for assembling all that information, I truly appreciate it and it's information I really need to know. From my point of view it's very sad but I still need to know it. My original post assumed, as I guess many do, that Christians holding Old Earth views must also be influenced by Liberal Christianity, that got started in Tubingen, because to my mind they both require bending the scripture to accommodate a worldly belief. So it's important to know that there are different sources of such ideas. Thanks again.
When I pointed out on the other thread that YECism was invented by SDAs, that should have been kind of a clue. What did you think fundamentalist Protestants thought before they were (as you suppose) enlightened by this non-Christian cult and their prophetess?