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Message 43 of 1309 (722848)
03-25-2014 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Faith
03-25-2014 10:12 AM


Faith writes:

IDIOTS! * IDIOTS! * IDIOTS!


Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the most idiotic of all?

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Message 217 of 1309 (723176)
03-27-2014 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by Faith
03-26-2014 3:44 PM


Re: Why are choices fair game?
Faith writes:

So we're going to have to take punishment for upholding the Biblical view that homosexuality as a sin and refusing to do anything that validates gay marriage.


You'll lose your business licence for refusing to serve gay people or black people - the same as you'll lose your business licence for having cockroaches walking across the customers' plates.

If you're "punished" for refusing to comply with community standards, at least every other religion (and atheists too) will be punished according to the same standards.


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Message 218 of 1309 (723177)
03-27-2014 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by Faith
03-27-2014 8:58 AM


Faith writes:

I think it's finally hit me just how deeply hated I am here....


quote:
Matthew 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Mirror, mirror, again.

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Message 239 of 1309 (723426)
04-01-2014 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by lokiare
03-25-2014 9:42 PM


Re: Why are choices fair game?
lokiare writes:

Homosexuality is simply a choice of sexual partners it does not inform the rest of your life.


Y'know, I couldn't care less whether homosexuality is a choice or not. The point is that somebody else's choice of sexual partners is none of your business.

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Message 247 of 1309 (723481)
04-02-2014 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 245 by onifre
04-02-2014 9:48 AM


Re: Why are choices fair game?
Onifre writes:

Is it really a "Biblical belief" that you can't sell cakes to gay people for their event?


If you read it "properly", the Bible also condemns maraschino cherries.

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Message 276 of 1309 (727085)
05-15-2014 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 273 by frako
05-15-2014 6:33 AM


Re: Courts strike down anti-gay maraige in Arkansas and Idaho
frako writes:

So let me get this straight Christians are in a no win situation in this case as if they dont serve gays they will get fined, but if they do God is gonna send them to hell for baking a cake for a gay couple?


Damned if you do, fined if you don't. Sounds like a fair trade to me.

Apparently fundies take get-out-of-hell-free literally - tax-free, fine-free.... Next they'll be wanting a free lunch - and damn you for persecuting them if they don't get it.


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Message 288 of 1309 (727212)
05-16-2014 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 282 by frako
05-16-2014 2:57 AM


Re: Becoming a Christian means giving up your sins
frako writes:

so why not go the Jesus way: ah you gay couple here be your cake for your wedding....


Jesus wuld have turned the water into cake.

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Message 306 of 1309 (727334)
05-17-2014 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by Faith
05-17-2014 1:35 AM


Re: You knew sinners bought cakes when you baked them.
Faith writes:

The issue I'm talking about comes up ONLY when someone requires ME, me personally, to do something that actively and consciously violates my conscience or my moral standards.


I don't see why baking a cake should violate anybody's conscience.

Would it be reasonable for a sales clerk at The Gap to refuse to sell socks to either of the grooms?


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Message 308 of 1309 (727345)
05-17-2014 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 307 by Faith
05-17-2014 1:31 PM


Re: You knew sinners bought cakes when you baked them.
Faith writes:

Like if you were asked to inscribe "White supremacy reigns" on a cake. Would you do it?


The first thing I would do is check to see if the customer had brown eyes; if he did, I'd tell him he wasn't really white.

Your turn: If you were asked to inscribe "Happy 4.6 billionth birthday, Earth" on a cake, would you do it?


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Message 406 of 1309 (727756)
05-20-2014 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 400 by Faith
05-20-2014 10:35 AM


Re: sexual aberrations
Faith writes:

... it's about a misapplication of marriage....


I agree - but it's the anti-gays who are misapplying it. Marriage is a government-sanctioned contract between two people for the purpose of sharing government-sanctioned benefits.

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Message 477 of 1309 (727877)
05-21-2014 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 475 by Faith
05-21-2014 10:22 AM


Faith writes:

Being forced to close their shop even if they continued at home is a pretty big price to pay I'd say.

Businesses are forced to close every day for a variety of reasons. It's not what I'd call martyrdom.

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Message 522 of 1309 (728014)
05-22-2014 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 493 by Faith
05-21-2014 6:29 PM


Re: evidence
Faith writes:

No but homosexual lifestyle IS a behavior....


I just saw an interesting movie called Albert Nobbs. Set in Victorian Ireland, it concerns a woman who has lived as a man for thirty years. At one point, she meets another woman who is living as a man and is married to another woman. There is no mention of "homosexual behaviour" but the couple do love each other as any other husband and wife.

So... question: If two women or two men were married to each other for the tax breaks and the hospital visitation rights and they didn't engage in "homosexual behaviour", would that still offend your sensibilities?


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Message 544 of 1309 (728076)
05-23-2014 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 535 by Phat
05-23-2014 12:43 AM


Re: God's Other Laws
Phat writes:

Just because you love the guy doesnt mean you need to marry him. Thats a cultural expectation.


Indeed it is. So why would a culture deny its own expectations?

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Message 573 of 1309 (728151)
05-24-2014 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 571 by Faith
05-24-2014 11:13 AM


Re: One little quote is wrong and he calls it "Christian pseudohistory" Sigh
Faith writes:

I'm getting tired of being let down by my sources. I've had in mind for a long time that I need to get my own index together of references that I can trust on every subject I talk about.


Does it occur to you that maybe there are no sources that can be trusted to back up ideas that are blatantly false?

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Message 578 of 1309 (728158)
05-24-2014 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 574 by Faith
05-24-2014 12:00 PM


Re: One little quote is wrong and he calls it "Christian pseudohistory" Sigh
Faith writes:

Funny, that long list of quotes that ARE on the memorial ought to show you that what I said is true.


You said, "... on every subject I talk about.' Message 571

Congratulations one being right ONCE in 14000 posts.


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