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New Cat's Eye
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Message 910 of 1309 (741793)
11-14-2014 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 886 by jar
11-14-2014 12:11 PM


Re: Christian?
Faith writes:
Nevertheless a Christian couldn't vote for gay marriage under any circumstances.
Bullshit Faith. I am a Christian and support same sex marriage so once again you are shown to be at best misrepresenting reality.
And here is St. Stanislaus church showing support at the gay pride parade:
That's Father Marek on the far left. He's totally awesome.
Got himself excommunicated, but a cool guy nonetheless.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 912 of 1309 (741795)
11-14-2014 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 911 by jar
11-14-2014 2:04 PM


Re: Christian?
What's the difference between being reverend and being very reverend?
I've never heard that before.
Heh, reminds me of this:

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 915 of 1309 (741799)
11-14-2014 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 914 by Faith
11-14-2014 3:00 PM


and doubtful for the same reason, against the many states that have put gay marriage bans on the ballot
How many people have to support something in order to propose a ballot?

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Message 919 of 1309 (741803)
11-14-2014 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 916 by Faith
11-14-2014 3:07 PM


Yeah, well, the times they are a changin'

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Message 1102 of 1309 (742123)
11-17-2014 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1090 by Faith
11-16-2014 3:54 PM


Re: You Re: Second Reminder
Its very simple, Faith.
Can your business provide its services to every single person that walks through the door?
What's that? No, you can't make cakes for gay weddings?
Oh, then you don't qualify for a business license.
The rules are the same for everyone.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1104 of 1309 (742137)
11-17-2014 1:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1103 by Faith
11-17-2014 12:29 PM


Re: Congratulations to the Devil!
Does this mean that you understand that, according to the law, refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple is discrimination?
I get that its all the work of the devil....
But do you at least understand that it is, in fact, what the law says?

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1113 of 1309 (742154)
11-17-2014 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1106 by Faith
11-17-2014 2:07 PM


Re: Congratulations to the Devil!
or take the consequences.
And those consequences are:
1.) Do not offer your services to the public.
2.) Suck it up and make the damned cake anyways.
I don't understand why a Christian business owner, when faced with these two options, cannot just make the cake with the understanding that they are only doing it to have a business license and that they are not, in fact, validating the marriage by making the cake.
Can you explain why that is impossible?
In Message 993, you ask:
And would you bake a cake and inscribe it with "White Supremacy Forever" or "Heil Hitler" or "Seventy-Fifth Anniversary of the Most Glorious Gassing of Jews."
Absolutely, I would. I couldn't care less what the cake says.
You know why? Making a cake doesn't validate anything.
I can literally write anything on a cake and not care in the slightest because it means absolutely nothing.
You could hire me to bake a cake that says: "Faith has been right this whole time and everything I've said on this thread is wrong" and it wouldn't matter to me in the slightest. Because its wrong and writing it on a cake doesn't make it right, nor does it matter.
Its just icing on cake. Its literally meaningless. I'd put "The Pope is the antichrist" on a cake, IDGAF.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1114 of 1309 (742155)
11-17-2014 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1112 by Faith
11-17-2014 3:02 PM


Re: Sixth District Circuit Court Ruling for Gay Marriage Bans
Everything you've said against gay people was said against black people during segregation.
That should be telling.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1117 of 1309 (742161)
11-17-2014 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1115 by Faith
11-17-2014 3:57 PM


Re: Sixth District Circuit Court Ruling for Gay Marriage Bans
Most black people know better, they know there is no legitimate comparison between the black Civil Rights movement and this attempt to legitimize a nonracial nonethnic group.
I wasn't comparing the movement. I was comparing what you said about the groups. And my point stands:
What you are saying about gay people was said about black people.
Shall we make pedophiles the next protected Minority?
Sure, why not?
Have a business deny service to a person because they are a pedophile and let's see what the courts decide.
There's nothing wrong with having sexual desires and people shouldn't be discriminated against for having them.
Acting on them is another story when it comes to non-consenting adults, though.
You'll scream that there's no comparison but there is.
Hmm, I didn't scream.
These groups are defined by their feelings and desires, unlike a racial or ethnic group.
Feelings and desires are perfectly acceptable things to base protected classes on.
You know how I know? Religion is a protected class and that is nothing but feelings and desires.
I was hoping to get a explanation in response to my question in Message 1113...

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Message 1118 of 1309 (742162)
11-17-2014 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1116 by Tangle
11-17-2014 4:15 PM


Re: Sixth District Circuit Court Ruling for Gay Marriage Bans
Faith writes:
But you know what, I think it really could come to protecting pedophiles too in one form or another.
Nope. Paedophiles harm children
Not necessarily. You can be a pedophile who has never had sex with a child.
And I think if people discriminate against you based on just your sexual preference, then that should be disallowed as well.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1121 of 1309 (742168)
11-17-2014 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1120 by Tangle
11-17-2014 4:40 PM


Re: Sixth District Circuit Court Ruling for Gay Marriage Bans
You're assuming the pedophile has engaged in criminal activity and I am not.
How about this one:
"I refuse to offer you the services my business provides because you have a speeding ticket, you filthy criminal, get out of here!"
Discrimination or not?

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Message 1176 of 1309 (742267)
11-18-2014 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1170 by Faith
11-18-2014 1:38 PM


Re: Oy. This has nothing to do with personal marriages. Yikes.
defining marriage as an objective social institution
Given that its a social institution, then society gets to define it.
Society has spoken. Gay people are allowed to marry now.
Deal with it.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1178 of 1309 (742270)
11-18-2014 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1177 by Faith
11-18-2014 2:24 PM


Re: Congratulations to the Devil
Ahem:

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1183 of 1309 (742276)
11-18-2014 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1179 by Faith
11-18-2014 2:36 PM


Re: Congratulations to the Devil
So?
So more people think it should be valid than don't.
That is society speaking. That is society redefining a social institution.
What I said was true, the courts have overruled the vote of the people in state after state.
How else would you prevent the majority from discriminating against a minority?
If it was good enough for slavery then its good enough for gay marriage.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 1187 of 1309 (742281)
11-18-2014 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1185 by Faith
11-18-2014 3:01 PM


Re: Congratulations to the Devil
Homosexuality is not a legitimate minority.
It is just as legitimate as a religious minority.
We do not grant special rights to aberrant groups.
Of course we do, silly.
What are you talking about?

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