Homosexuality and Evo, Creo, and ID

Perhaps God is teling you to stop publishing offensive material?

In an odd coincidence, gays and cakes and lawyers are in the news here today. This looks to me like an ambush - the cake offensive is now on globally. Christian bigots had better start learning to be 'too busy' to take on these kind of orders. http://www.theweek.co.uk/...t-christian-bakery#ixzz3IJ53tiBt

I assume you mean New World Order? If so, you're more paranoid and bonkers than I thought.The gay movement is just campaigning for its rights. Northern Ireland refused legislation for gay marriage - the LGB pepes are pissed off and are trying to get their point across. Legally.

I guess you'd bet that sin is increasing then?

I can't quite get my head around all that twaddle. Let's keep it simple.In the end times - which I assume you're referring to - sin has supposedly become so bad that 'something has to be done'. You keep telling us that things are getting worse and that soon God's judgement will fall on us. So you say that the trend is worsening, right? So if we took crime trends as a proxy for sin - stuff like, murder, rape, theft, assaullt and so on, you'd say that it's all getting worse and that this is a signal that 'the end is near'?

It seems you care more about gay sex than, murder, rape, theft, assault..... Abortion is certainly a very difficult issue, I'll give you that. Hopefully with some more scientific effort we'll reduce it to the absolute minimum. Well in fact crime - real crime - is falling all across the developed, secular world. The places where crime is rising is in those places where mediaeval beliefs still exist. Crime - real sin - has been falling for centuries. It's the civilising effect of democracy and fair and predictable laws that does it. The world is actually getting less sinful, not more - I'm afraid you'll have to wait a while longer for the end times.

That's just dissembling. If crime - real sin - was increasing you'd be crying it from the rooftops as evidence of the end. The fact is all traditional crime types are falling and have been for centuries. I can prove it to you if you like but your ability to adjust to facts that go against your preferred version of the world has been shown to be non-existent.

You realise that those two sentences contradict each other?

That makes no sense either.However, punishment of crime in society is not at issue here. What I'm saying is that crime has fallen in all modern societies in absolute terms. If it had risen you would claim that is was a sign of the end times. But you can't, you have to hang onto silly 'sins' like gay marriage whilst ignoring real sins like murder and theft.You really need to think about what this fall means to your beliefs - it's not a small amount, it's thousands of % and over centuries.

You really do have the memory of a goldfish.

The nonsense you talk about what you think god will and won't do is decipherable only to you.But we were talking about factual stuff - crime - real sin, the type that was chiselled on tablets of stone. Your claim is that the world is becoming more sinful but the demonstrable fact is that the opposite is happening. Why does this fact not inform you?

Well it was clear that everyone concerned expected the second coming pretty much immediately after his death which is what the bible actually says.Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. - Matthew 24:34It's the biggest failed prophecy of the entire bible and proves its falsehood.That aside, I've told you that sin is declining and has been for centuries - that's the actual trend.

The bible is written for simple folk and it has simple meanings. As soon as you have to reach for 'context' to explain away a straightforward statement like that, you've lost the argument. It means what it says. You can say, 'yes I see what you mean, crime has actually been declining significantly for generations. That's really good news.' And then you can start believing in this world and the people in i instead of hating everything and everybody.

This is a real longshot, but the word 'generation' could actually mean what it always means. The ONLY reason you have to try to make it mean something that it doesn't mean, is because it shows the failure of the most important prophecy in the bible.Additionally sin/crime is falling - this is a proven fact. You haven't provided anything to contradict that statement yet. Why not?Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

........it's accurate.