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Dr Adequate Member  Posts: 16083 Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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No I'm not. It's all very well going all dewy-eyed and Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto about them, but there are differences. For example, I wouldn't presume to teach others about a scientific subject without first having looked at a relevant textbook. I have spent what must amount to several working days this year alone looking up quotations and references to verify them. (Not just about evolution, I have other interests, but still.) I find out what my intellectual opponents think by reading what they have written, and criticize them accordingly. And so forth. There are subjects on which I may still be irrational --- who knows? --- but at least I am conscientious. This does, I think, make them inferior to me, because they have failed, not through want of reason, but through want of effort. Any man may be irrational now and then, but no-one is obliged to be habitually and systematically lazy.
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Percy Member  Posts: 18255 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 3.9
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What I was saying was along somewhat different lines. Taq said we should "take away their membership cards in the human race," referring to those unconvinced by the chalk evidence and the cliffs of Dover, but who among us has no beliefs untouchable by evidence? It could even be argued that our irrational side is a significant part of what makes us human. When it comes to turning in membership cards, if anyone should be asked to resign from the human race it should be those who are unfailingly coldly rational. Ignorance and irrationality should be fought at every practical opportunity, and especially when it's us, but we can't let our alliance here with the side that has all the evidence and knowledge lead us to a conceit that we're somehow better or more human than creationists. We might be more knowledgeable and rational about evolution and about science in general, we may even be more knowledgeable and rational in general, but nothing of significance separates the humanity of evolutionists and creationists. --Percy
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RAZD Member  Posts: 19732 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/religious-vision/Content
Can anyone explain why there would be an A-10 Warthog on the roof?
And ... we can assume ... ignore any evidence that calls such belief into question, such as the evidence that the earth is much older than any YEC model ...
And so we have a "museum" dedicated to perpetuating a KNOWN fraud\hoax ... no different than Carl Baugh and the Creation "Museum" Paluxy "human" footprints hoax.
But the lack of any formal training doesn't stop him from thinking he can put together a museum and comment on the science involved ... after all he is interested in ... (wait for it) ...
Somehow I don't think any scientists, or even scientifically literate people will be beating a path to this new mecca of self delusion. Enjoy by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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herebedragons Member  Posts: 1493 From: Michigan Joined: |
I am curious as to what the caption says for the mastodon skull. If you have dinosaurs and humans co-existing, then certainly mastodons lived much more recently. Maybe it says "Perhaps your great, great, great grandfather used one of these for transportation." You missed some good quotes that I found quite funny. quote:
Another one about the Ica Stones: quote: All about equally valid "theories."
My guess is there are a few reasons. 1) He simply had one available for some reason, probably from a donor, 2) it would attract kids and 3) it will be used as a symbol of what "real science" can accomplish. HBD Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca "Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem. Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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edge Member  Posts: 4451 From: Colorado, USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
You mean not everyone has an A-10 in their garage?
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ringo Member  Posts: 16136 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.1 |
It's an experiment: It will demonstrate that a storm can't build one.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16083 Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Technically, he's right --- the Ica stones are the most compelling evidence for creationism.
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jar Member  Posts: 30934 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Diomedes Member  Posts: 799 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.5 |
I thought it was because the people most likely to be Creationist are also the same people that think they need to be armed to the teeth so they can overthrow the government when it becomes corrupt. Them A-10s got a big-ass gun:
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edge Member Posts: 4451 From: Colorado, USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
Maybe it's like one of those signs you put in your yard that says, "This property protected by ..."
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Omnivorous Member (Idle past 1013 days)  Posts: 3808 From: Adirondackia Joined: |
Muscular Jesus. "If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
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Omnivorous Member (Idle past 1013 days) Posts: 3808 From: Adirondackia Joined:
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"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
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RAZD Member Posts: 19732 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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I wondered if it weren't preparation for the 'end of times' great battle ...
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RAZD Member Posts: 19732 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Kind of makes me wonder how many hole-in-the-wall pocket museums there are ... I know of another along the route I normally take into Maine ... http://www.examiner.com/article/creation-museum-maine A quick google gave me http://creationministriesoftheozarks.com/...o-tour-of-museum (what a hoot pile of whooey) http://www.boneyardcreationmuseum.org/ Which looks like it has based exhibits on many well known PRATTS ... and is that large "skeleton" t-rex based on a cardboard cut-out kit? http://creationstudies.org/museum.html And what these "museums" seem to be most concerned with - desperate - is showing that SCIENCE supports the bible ... but that they know the TRUTH that is somehow ignored in real museums. A quick look exposes them as loaded with ludicrous misinformation and wishful thinking. But I'm sure the gullible are easily enthralled ... ... and remain ignorant of the evidence for an old earth, or the absence Enjoy. by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. • • • Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) • • •
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Oh that's funny. I bet Ham and Hovind will be upset to find out their museums don't "put up science." 
