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Omnivorous
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Message 45 of 53 (723664)
04-05-2014 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Phat
04-05-2014 11:49 AM


Re: The Hillbilly Militia
Phat writes:
Thus, in any future scenario involving a world government bent on redistribution of "stuff", there would be an army bought and paid for by the wealthy (who own the most stuff) and there would be an uprising of the masses who---in America at least---own much less stuff than do the wealthy yet far more stuff than the average global citizen. A paid army versus citizens holding on to what they have.
During the past few decades, the wealthy have accomplished one of the greatest redistributions of stuff ever.
The feisty Americans who lost the most cheered them on.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Message 47 of 53 (723686)
04-05-2014 7:44 PM
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04-05-2014 5:54 PM


Re: The Hillbilly Militia
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You forget about religion. If the christians ever collectively believed that one of their endtime scenarios was coming into play, they would fight.
That's a relief--I thought you were saying Christians would take up arms against the Republic to avoid helping the un-American poor.
Now, fighting peaceful, compassionate global governance in the name of Doom, that I can understand.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Omnivorous
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Message 53 of 53 (723745)
04-07-2014 11:05 AM
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04-06-2014 11:07 AM


Re: The Hillbilly Militia
Phat writes:
Omni writes:
That's a relief--I thought you were saying Christians would take up arms against the Republic to avoid helping the un-American poor.
No, but I may add that the middle and working class in America is in no position to start equalizing global poverty. That money must come from the upper class. We are already under attack and dont have a lot to give away.
Note that I referred to "un-American poor" rather than non-American poor. We should definitely put our own house in order first. Besides, with hundreds of millions of Christians globally, the poor should soon be fine.
My vision of economic justice does not require higher taxes on the working/middle class--quite the opposite.
Much could be achieved by changing spending priorities: more for infrastructure, less for oil and gas subsidies; more for health and education, less for weapons systems even the Pentagon doesn't want.
In all likelihood, taxes wouldn't have to go up for anyone if the wealthy and the corporate actually paid the current taxation rates.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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