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Author Topic:   Depositional Models of Sea Transgressions/Regressions - Walther's Law
Tanypteryx
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Message 3 of 533 (724589)
04-18-2014 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Minnemooseus
04-17-2014 9:49 PM


Moose,

Thanks for the links and information. I read Dr. A's Geology thread back when he was first posting it, but now I clearly need to read the whole thing again.

I always wanted to take a good geology course in college but I was focused on biology and entomology and never got around to it.

I spent most of last May travelling around the Southwest and photographed gobs of interesting geological formations.

This summer my grandson and I are going back for a month of photography, dragonfly hunting and Geology. We will be armed with a set of the Roadside Geology books and a copy of
Geology of the American Southwest: A Journey through Two Billion Years of Plate-Tectonic History by W. Scott Baldridge.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 148 of 533 (726542)
05-09-2014 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by Faith
05-09-2014 3:36 PM


Re: complexity of geology
Good grief.

Good grief indeed.

Obviously nobody is ALLOWED to think there might have been a worldwide Flood and you're going to see to it that such ideas never get a hearing.

Oh, you poor thing. Every time those awful Thought Police see you straining to think they rap your knuckles with a ruler.

And they let you spout your ideas for only 13 years, imagine, only 13 years, only 14,500 posts. The dirty so and sos.

Every time you repeat your ideas they always jump in and ask for evidence. The nerve of them, and then to top it off, they actually tell you about science and explain reality to you, like they expect you to learn something. How insulting!


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 432 of 533 (727984)
05-22-2014 10:55 AM
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05-22-2014 9:17 AM


Re: Summation Time?
Percy, I have learned a lot from this thread.

If Edge still has answers to post I would like to see it remain open.

Is there any reason to hurry to close it?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 501 of 533 (730620)
06-29-2014 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 498 by herebedragons
06-29-2014 12:32 PM


After the flood waters abated

The ground was dried. The flood was over. If there were standing bodies of water left over from the flood, they would now operate in ways we can relate to today. The vast majority of the erosional work needs to be done as the flood waters drained.

Where did the flood waters go? How could there be runoff if the whole planet is covered by water? Faith and the other YECs all talk about the flood causing erosion as if a plug was pulled and the flood water went down a drain.

Did it get sucked into a black hole or something? Water has to have a lower level to flow into before it can flow. If the whole planet is covered with water there is no lower level to flow into.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 506 of 533 (730628)
06-29-2014 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 504 by Faith
06-29-2014 1:28 PM


"This man can't be seventy. Why, he's clearly very old. So in seventy years he'd be dead!"

I'm not talking about the future of the Dover Cliffs, which is what that remark implies, but that at the rate given by Percy they couldn't be existing NOW given OE assumptions of when they were formed, they'd long since have eroded away to nothing.

You are still not getting it....it went right over your head.

What are the OE assumptions of when they were formed? And do you mean when the material was deposited or when the erosion of the cliffs began?

The age of the material and the length of time to erode to their present state is more evidence that there was never a worldwide biblical flood.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 516 of 533 (730640)
06-29-2014 1:58 PM
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06-29-2014 1:49 PM


Let's see. According to Wikipedia theyre 300 to 350 feet in height, so any calculation based on Percy's rate would have them demolished long since.

The erosion being discussed is not lowering the elevation. It is erosion that widens the channel, so material is being aroded from the face of the cliffs.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Tanypteryx
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Message 522 of 533 (730647)
06-29-2014 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 518 by Faith
06-29-2014 2:16 PM


Let's get back to the hoodoos and the monuments.

The surrounding material began eroding millions of years after it was deposited.

The individual hoodoos are not very old or long lasting. Many, many, many hoodoos were formed (by erosion of surrounding material) and eroded away since Bryce Canyon began eroding.

The towers in Monument Valley are the few remnants that are left after millions of years of erosion of the surrounding materials. There are mounds (rounded buttes} thoughout the valley that are the remains of towers that are in a more eroded state than the towers that are still standing.

There is no evidence of your biblical flood in Monument Valley, or Bryce Canyon, or anywhere else, either in the deposition of material or the subsequent erosion. All the evidence is of vast amounts of time for these processes to occur.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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