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Message 23 of 38 (725075)
04-24-2014 7:33 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Ben!
04-23-2014 11:41 AM

Re: Conspiracy Theory and Validation
Allow me to add mt $.02...

Would you accept that there's a long history of governments trying to control their populace? Either through force, through selective access to information, or other means? I do.

Governments..? As in from the beginning of history..? Sure, some governments past, present, and probably future have and will try to control their populations. So what..?

I also accept that the US government does its fair bit of shady, back-room stuff.

Well, that's not the same thing is it..? Or are you suggesting that you have evidence that the US government is now trying to control the minds of the populace through force, or some other means..? What is the evidence that you have that supports that contention..?

All of the recent NSA revelations a nice example of it, but plenty of others, including the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment.

The NSA revelations are not about trying to control the populace, but rather about trying to gather information (ostensibly on terrorists) through listening in to private cell phone conversations sans search warrants.

The Tuskeegee Experiment was a deplorable time in our history when the US violated the rights of individuals in an attempt to gather clinical information, but they weren't about trying to control the populace either.

I know the government (and particularly defense agencies) are funding research related to AI, reading minds, brain-computer interfaces, and alike. As a researcher in the AI field, I have a pretty clear view of those things.

The DOD, and particularly DARPA, funds studies on all sorts of outlandish stuff, as part of their attempt to find a better way to defeat our enemies. They funded a study on astral projection too, as part of the Stargate Project, "a $20 million research program that had started in 1975 and was sponsored by the U.S. government, in an attempt to determine any potential military application of psychic phenomena. The program was terminated in 1995 after it failed to produce any useful intelligence information." So what..?

To hear that a government agency is spraying chemicals in the atmosphere without our knowledge would not be surprising. That there's a potential effect of such aerosols on brains would not be surprising. To know that the government was interested in such effects, and had hypotheses about the effects, would not be surprising.

Purity of essence is what you should really be concerned with here. Flouridation of water is undoubtedly part of the effort to control our minds.

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