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Author Topic:   Peter & Rosemary Grant, Darwin's Finches and Evolution
Coyote
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Message 59 of 131 (725820)
05-02-2014 12:59 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Faith
05-02-2014 12:53 AM


Re: You can't get evolution beyond microevolution [yes we can]
But you know what, it doesn't matter what level we're on, the processes that bring about a new population that is identifiably a new race or breed or SPECIES are all the same.

The process is evolution. If it goes on long enough you get different critters.

There is no brick wall in the sky to prevent evolution from creating new species, no matter what you wish to believe.


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Message 77 of 131 (725878)
05-03-2014 12:07 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Faith
05-02-2014 8:23 PM


Re: Beneficial mutations and other facts
Down any path where the changes I'm talking about are occurring there has to ultimately be an end where no more variation is possible becaue there is no more genetic diversity left in that population. And since it's these paths that are definitive of evolution this clearly shows that macroevolution simply cannot happen.

So you want to believe.

But, unfortunately for your belief, the evidence says otherwise.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.


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