Open letter to all Atheists.

Yah, it's always hilarious watching you biblicans logic your own god into oblivion.There really ought to be someplace you guys could go and warn the others to not say dumb stuff after getting your teeth kicked in (metaphorically speaking, of course). This "if evolution then no god" stuff we've seen before. It's a false dichotomy since evolution says nothing about any gods, pro or con, requires no gods to work as it does but also does not hold any evidence that preclude some gods from existing.As I'm sure you know there are a multitude of other facts that in aggregate strongly support the proposition that your gods do not exist. Evolution cannot claim that honor. But, if you insist that it is either one or the other, evolution or god, then we watch in mirth as your gods fade away into oblivion felled by the mere thought of one of its own minions.

Then, by the terms of your own argument, teaching evolution isn't teaching atheism.Evolution may well be incompatible with your very specific and limited notions of "god" but that is neither here nor there. Indeed most Christians are perfectly content to accept evolution so it seems to be your notion of god that is the problem here.

That's pretty stupid. I can measure your height using a stick with lines on it. Not nearly as complex as you.Your attempts at using logic stink on ice.

C sharp is primarily a statically typed language. It is possible to circumvent that, but probably bad practice.

Yes, I am aware. Actually did MFC and Win32 programming back in the day. But you can use casting to adjust variable type. I think the following would work:class VariableTypeAdjust
{
static void Main()
{
bool variable_bool = true;
string variable_string;
// Cast variable from bool to string
variable_bool = (string)variable_string;
variable_bool = "walnut";
System.Console.WriteLine(variable_bool);
}
}The output should read 'walnut'.Note1: I am a little rusty on this stuff.
Note2: I think faceman is a troll and I am actually just fucking with him.

I don't see why people keep saying faceman is a troll, I rather like him.

No, in each case, it is the same logical fallacy, and that is 'shifting the burden of proof'.

His flippant manner of responding is pretty indicative of a troll. But hey, I could be wrong.

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I am not offended by prayer, and I am an atheist. The only thing I am offended by is the use of government time, money, and resources for prayer and the pushing of one religious view over another. I am offended by teachers in public schools using public funded classrooms and classtime as a means to proselytize. I am offended by my tax dollars being spent advertising for religious views I don't agree with.

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I am not offended by teachers leading after school prayer meetings. I am not offended by churches leasing schools for church services.

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Do you understand the differences?

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But this shouldn't offend you. You are offended mearly because you don't agree with it, not for any logical reasons. This exemplifies my OP. There are plenty of things in governemnt which I do not agree with, but it doesn't offend me. Thanks for supporting my statement. Your atheism does not offend me at any time.

Isn't this the whole crust of this forum? Evolution vs Creation?I want to say to believe in one or the other is very narrow minded. Could we have been created to evolve? Does the bible explain exactly how he created us from dirt? Does evolution explain where we came from?To all you Christians, and atheists. If God is the creator of the universe, and at a certain point in time He decided to have us believe in Him by faith (John 3:16) then it is most likely He removed/masked all objective evidence pointing directly to Him, or how He did things. This is why creation science is stupid. Even if we were created, we would never be able to show it. We are like ignorant little children compared to the Creator of the universe, and it is probably very amusing to Him watching us trying to figure it all out (or maybe not).Everything requires faith. But believing in God requires much more faith than believing if the sun will rise tomorrow.I have 5 kids, and all of them once they started going to high school started coming home with the notion that there is no way a God can exist based on what they were being taught. So while schools do not openly teach atheism, their way of teaching leaves anyone with a rational mind no other logical conclusion. As if we knew everything. I tend to think that most atheists base their non-belief on there education. So yes, I think schools are teaching atheism. Been there, done that. I was agnostic for most of my life. The reason? Church made me that way, and so did my education.

I'd argue that is not so much a consequence of "their way of teaching" as it is the consequence of critical thought.

I don't think so. If, as you say, God "removed/masked all objective evidence pointing directly to Him, or how He did things", then teaching about the objective evidence, which is surely what schools do are meant to do, will surely inculcate doubt without anyone "teaching atheism" as such.It is not just "their way of teaching" that "leaves anyone with a rational mind no other logical conclusion". It is, according to your theology, God who has left a rational mind with no other conclusion, by carefully ensuring that the evidence leaves a rational mind with no other conclusion.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

Well yeah, that's because we don't violate your first amendment rights.You seem to think that saying this sort of thing gives you the high road, but actually it's a sign that we've already taken it; in America today a Christian boasting that he's not offended by atheism is like a serial killer saying to an origami enthusiast: "Hey, I don't criticize your hobby."

Not according to the Bible, which gives time indicators that show the age of the Earth is not long enough, as well as the information that the original couple lost their immortality when they sinned against God. Evolution can't exist where there is no death, and since death entered there hasn't been time. No and no. I don't know what you mean here. If you mean that we are blind to God apart from what scripture reveals about Him, that is true, but that's the result of the Fall or our first parents' disobedience of God. The death that resulted was first a spiritual death. The intimacy they had experienced with God before their sin was lost and they could no longer experience His presence as they had before. God became remote to them at that point and we've all been born into their spiritual deadness. You have to appreciate the whole context of scripture to get an appreciation of all this, you can't just know a few verses. Not at all, which should be clear from an appreciation of what scripture reveals about God's attitude toward us. Even in our sinful state we are made in His image, Man is born "in honor" and yet because of sin is "like the beasts that perish." That's Psalm 49 in a nutshell. Our animal nature is not a sign of evolution but of our fall from honor.ABE: Never got to the important point here which is that God loves us, we are His highest creation, made in his image but sadly degenerated from the honor in which He created us, and He had mercy on us by providing us the scriptures to guide us in our blindness to the salvation that is meant to restore our original condition, or really even a better condition. /ABE I suppose so, but scripture was given to us to build our faith, that's its purpose as there is nothing outside scripture that can overcome our fallen blindness. I think I agree with what you're saying here, or most of it. Schools are where a lot of us lost our faith. That happened to me at the age of fifteen under the relentless religion-bashing of a geometry teacher and the company of atheist friends. Christian parents these days are alert to this effect of the schools and do what they can to prepare their children to withstand the onslaught of atheistic assumptions. I wasn't much of a Christian at the age of fifteen, a very nominal believer at best, so it wasn't hard to lose what little "faith" I had, if it can even be called faith. I lived the next thirty years as a fairly aggressive atheist, at least some of the time. I'm so grateful God decided not to leave me in that condition. But anyway, yes, the schools destroy Christian faith unless it's very strongly nailed down. The early schools in this country were based on the Bible and the Westminster catechism. Education must be built on the Christian religion in a nation that wants to survive and prosper.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : to add ABE paragraph

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I'd argue that is not so much a consequence of "their way of teaching" as it is the consequence of critical thought.

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Faith is not taught in schools (and you don't want it to be), at least not in the manor that it should be first off, secondly, critical thought is based on current knowledge/teaching. You say it as if critical thought is superior to any other way of thinking. I am sure scientists have felt that way throughout the generations, until proven wrong. All I see are close minded people angry at religion. Hence the offense.