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Modulous
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Message 19 of 137 (727323)
05-17-2014 12:14 PM


America has lots of Christians.
If even a fraction of them moved to the Sudan, they could elicit real change within the country. I'm guessing that would be the truly Christian thing to do: Sacrificing your wealth an comforts for the betterment of mankind and all that.

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Message 22 of 137 (727370)
05-17-2014 4:40 PM
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05-17-2014 3:36 PM


. We wouldn't be welcome, of course, would probably trigger some violence, so I'm not sure it's all that great an idea when you think it through.
So you won't sacrifice your wealth, safety and comfort to help Christians who have none of these things because you would be in the same position as them? Yes, I see you are drawing heavily on your Christian faith in your moral assessment.

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Message 26 of 137 (727439)
05-18-2014 11:01 AM
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05-17-2014 11:07 PM


They wouldn't be welcome to the point of not being allowed to stay in the country. The U.S. is not the only place in the world with immigration laws.
Yes, nobody gets into and stays in the US without permission If 10 million US Christians went to the Sudan, I don't think Sudan's famously effective government would be able to do much about it.

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Message 28 of 137 (727450)
05-18-2014 11:18 AM
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05-18-2014 11:10 AM


Who cares about blending in when you have an army of Jesus powered martyrs?

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Message 29 of 137 (727465)
05-18-2014 12:17 PM
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05-17-2014 5:40 PM


I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,' and it would move. Nothing would be impossible"

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Message 81 of 137 (730553)
06-28-2014 9:47 PM
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06-28-2014 1:28 AM


find one place in Shariah Law where slaves are given any kind of humane treatment
Sahih al-Bukhari - Book of Manumission of Slaves
I saw Abu Dhar Al-Ghifari wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a cloak. We asked him about that (i.e. how both were wearing similar cloaks). He replied, "Once I abused a man and he complained of me to the Prophet (ﷺ) . The Prophet (ﷺ) asked me, 'Did you abuse him by slighting his mother?' He added, 'Your slaves are your brethren upon whom Allah has given you authority. So, if one has one's brethren under one's control, one should feed them with the like of what one eats and clothe them with the like of what one wears. You should not overburden them with what they cannot bear, and if you do so, help them (in their hard job).
"Whoever frees a Muslim slave, Allah will save all the parts of his body from the (Hell) Fire as he has freed the body-parts of the slave."

Find any place in the Bible that speaks of honor killings of family members, or any execution of anybody without due process of law.
Lev 21:9
And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.

But Islam's version of the law prescribes jihad against unbelievers outside their own community, has passages in the Koran telling them to kill Jews and Christians.
And the Bible has passages describing various jihads against non-Israelites.
has passages in the Koran telling them to kill Jews and Christians.
Such as...?

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Message 91 of 137 (730639)
06-29-2014 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Faith
06-29-2014 12:26 PM


re: Charlotte Allen on Ibrahim
this article mentions the anti-Christian attitude in the West that is responsible for tolerating the persecutions of Christians elsewhere in the world
Either that or Christians are not special at all and every group that gets persecuted largely gets ignored. Christians, Ahmadis, former Muslims and Atheists are among the groups that get persecuted in Islamic countries.

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