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Where should there be "The right to refuse service"?

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Message 856 of 928 (758634)
05-29-2015 9:46 PM 		Reply to: Message 854 by Faith
05-29-2015 9:31 PM

Re: Inquisition still continuing
requiring atheists to live under Christian laws, which don't deprive them of life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness, just require them not to blaspheme God essentially or teach against God;
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If I'm not free to blaspheme then I'm not free.
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Message 858 of 928 (758636)
05-29-2015 9:56 PM 		Reply to: Message 857 by Faith
05-29-2015 9:52 PM

Re: Inquisition still continuing
Some speech corrupts the public consciousness, but we're so used to all kinds of such corrupting speech over the last half century we consider it "freedom."
It's a simple matter of equal treatment under the law. Would you ok with laws preventing you from blaspheming against Odin the Allfather? of course not, so why should I be subject to laws that would prevent me from blaspheming against your god?
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor
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Message 860 of 928 (758639)
05-29-2015 10:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 859 by Faith
05-29-2015 10:01 PM

Re: Inquisition still continuing
We're talking about a Christian country here.
So a christian country is not obligated to treat it's citizens equally under the law? Some citizens are more equal than others?
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DrJones*
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Message 865 of 928 (758647)
05-30-2015 3:39 AM 		Reply to: Message 862 by Faith
05-30-2015 3:04 AM

Re: Inquisition still continuing
Well, apparently if a (Protestant) Christian nation wants to stay Christian it has to limit the freedoms of the antiChristians
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So you want to remove people's freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Tell me how is that different from what you claim is being done to christians?
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Message 877 of 928 (758675)
05-30-2015 1:30 PM 		Reply to: Message 871 by Faith
05-30-2015 8:38 AM

Re: Inquisition still continuing
No, their freedom of religion is not removed, just their political power to impose it on the rest of the country, and the right to hold office isn't taken away from anyone except those whose religion preaches the subjugation of everyone else, such as Islam and Roman Catholicism.
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So under your system Muslims and RCs wouldn't pay taxes? Or would you force them to be taxed without representation in government?
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor
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Message 884 of 928 (758685)
05-30-2015 9:27 PM 		Reply to: Message 878 by NoNukes
05-30-2015 5:39 PM

Re: Inquisition still continuing
Seriously. Isn't it kind of pointless to cite constitutional principles at someone who hates the first amendment as much as Faith does?
I'm just wondering how many of the founding tenets of your country Faith is opposed too.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor
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