Where should there be "The right to refuse service"?

But "not just any belief" is being justified, and there is no call for your comparison with violent actions since I've said nothing but that Christians expect to take the consequences of choosing to obey God.

What does that mean in this case?Are you going to start up a bakery business so that you can tell gay people you won't bake them a wedding cake?

All I am doing on this subject is identifying with fellow Christians who are in the position of having to take the consequences for obeying the Biblical revelation of God's will concerning gay marriage. I don't need to run a business that could be challenged for taking such a stand in order to address the principle involved, or to identify with other Christians who face the actual situation.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Those who flew planes into skyscrapers or killed prostitutes in the name of God's will could equally say that "not just any belief is being justified". As far as they are concerned they know God specifically willed these actions and thus they are justified.And they too expect to take the consequences of choosing to obey their God who wants them to undertake the actions in question (they think they will ultimately be rewarded for obeying God's will).

It doesn't matter what others say about God's will supporting their terrorist actions. You are gtalking to me and I am saying nothing of the kind.

If it doesn't matter what others say about God's will justifying their actions why does it matter what you say about God's will justifying your actions?How about we just leave spurious claims about God's will out of it?

Because it is God's will as revealed in the Bible that determines our stand on gay marriage. Pretty obvious.

Since you continue to go on and on about 'God's Law' as it is revealed in your Bible, then what I want you to do Faith is itemize exactly which verses you are referring to when you are making your statements. So please, enlighten us with regards to which Bible versus are making explicit statements about gays getting married.We're waiting.Edited by Diomedes, : Fixed typo

And the othet purveyors of God's will consider their holy book or yheir personal communications with God as equally obvious in justifying their actions.Im not disputing anyones sincerity in genuinely believing they know and are acting upon God's will. Im simply pointing out that God's will is invoked to justify all sorts of things that are unjustifiable if one doesnt ascribe to that version of God's supposed will.

You tell 'em girl! I'm completely with you Faith. God's will HAS to be followed to the letter.For example, just the other day, I noticed my slave had on new leather shoes. Pretty suspicious, right? I was gonna let it go, but noticed the shoe strings. They were pretty shiny. A little too shiny, ya know. So afterwards, I had the chance to snip a small piece off and send it to the lab for analysis. Sure enough, cotton/polyester blend!!! SWEET BABY JESUS!Sooo, what else could I do? I beat my slave bad. Real bad. I was in ecstasy doing the lord's work. god MUST have been real pleased with the amount of blood and terror I created. To tell the truth, it was so violent, I almost climaxed myself. Pure rapture.Good god Faith, I'm exactly like you, I just love carrying out the lord's will.Yep, it IS pretty obvious.

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Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property. Exodus 21:20-21

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As part of society, yes you do need to convince me. If you are demanding certain rights then you need to justify them.

Where is it revealed that God's will is for you to discriminate against homosexuals as part of your business?

What stops us from saying that you are just as wrong as the terrorists are?

Hold on thar, Quick Draw. You're going off half-cocked. You're writing between the lines.Your wife was "hit on". Nobody attacked you at all. Nobody attacked your wife either. They hit on her, which some women would take as a compliment. Again, nothing was said about "abuse". Nothing was said about "decorum". As the proprietor you are allowed to have an immature reaction to an innocent action but the law shouldn't back up your hissy-fit. The cops I know would laugh you off the property.

Right on girl!You know Faith, I've been thinking how lucky we are. We both have exactly the same mindset when it comes to our god of the bible. Whether the subject is gay-marriage, textile blends, seafood prohibitions, rules for slave-beatings, . . . the three of us concur 100%.For example, when god punished the wicked world during the world flood a few thousand years ago, a lot of wicked children and toddlers must have died horrifically. I mean, don't get me wrong, those evil infants DID deserve to die excruciatingly. So we just HAVE to rejoice in their horrific deaths and in the goodness and forgiveness of a gentle and loving god. Am I right?And even though the world wasn't very populated back then, there still must have been tens-of-thousands of the little tikes struggling in agony for their last breathes. Gosh it sounds so, . . . so, . . . so exciting. So righteous. Goodness, I'm blushing inside. Some frightened kids may have even been fortunate to watch their own family members die before themselves. Glory to our god of the bible! I love it. Love. It. I just can't imagine anything so horrifying as believing your breath is the very last one. But again, those heathen babies completely deserved it.So, what I mean by us being lucky is, . . . that both of our sick, monstrous, mentally-retarded, sociopathic brains just happen, JUST HAPPEN to coincide with the will of god of our bible. What a great coincidence for us, right?! Am I right?!Okay, gotta go, I think I might've spotted cray-fish remains in the trash at home. Looks like I gotta another session of whoop-ass with my slave.Keep the faith Faith!