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Author Topic:   Do oceans of water in mantle rock prove the flood?
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Message 19 of 108 (729713)
06-17-2014 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Faith
06-17-2014 4:00 PM


Re: No, not proof, but likely evidence at least
Or, another question, is there anybody here who has the grace to acknowledge that there IS evidence for the Flood in such a fact, just as there is in the fact of the strata and the fossil record? Not PROOF -- no, we can't say that "oceans of water in mantle rock PROVES the Flood, as the title of this thread asks -- but it's certainly consistent with the idea of the Flood, just as the strata and the fossils are. Fairness should acknowledge this.

If any of that were even close to being true you might have a point but there is no evidence in support of the Biblical Floods in the strata or fossil record either.

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Message 50 of 108 (729752)
06-18-2014 10:33 AM
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06-18-2014 4:43 AM


a great example of why the Bible is wrong.
There is nothing supernatural stated or implied in the Biblical account of the physical phenomena involving the Flood. What is described is presented as physical phenomena that happen to be different from the current situation, physical and natural nevertheless. What the "fountains of the deep" means is not at all clear to me, and possibly nobody who has interpreted it gets it right, but nevertheless it is presented as natural and physical and not supernatural.

That is correct and should be one big reason to discount the Biblical Flood stories as being factual.

"Data that supports the flood." Oh yawn, this gets tedious. Bazillions of fossils are, ya know, VERY consistent with the idea of a worldwide Flood that killed, ya know, bazillions of living things [abe: And buried them en masse under conditions ideal for fossilization too, wetness and pressure. /abe]. Yeah you can interpret them in a different way but just on the face of it they are fantasic evidence for such an event. Yawn, sigh. And the strata themselves, those different kinds of sediments laid down one on top of another, are awfully like something that water does with sediments, ya know, yawn, sigh. And the idea of "oceans" of water in any form at all sure does suggest,-- suggest mind you, only "suggest" -- oceans of water that once were. Sigh. Yawn. Hiccup.

It does not matter how many times you repeat a falsehood, it is still false.

In fact, the ordering of those fossils and the reality of the geology totally disprove there was ever a natural event like Biblical Floods as every honest scientist for the last 100 to 150 years knows.

You can keep repeating falsehoods but until you can present the natural mechanisms that explain the data seen you are just plain wrong.

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Message 93 of 108 (729805)
06-19-2014 8:42 AM
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06-19-2014 7:25 AM


Re: From the "on/off-topic fuzzy" zone
As for where rain comes from, why don't all you know-it-alls at least acknowledge the one basic fact of the creationist position which is that THINGS WERE DIFFERENT BACK THEN. The Biblical position is that there had been no rain at all prior to that forty days and forty nights, that the water was suspended in the "firmament" overhead and the earth was watered by a "mist." Rain as we know it was only possible after the Flood when the familiar cycles were established.

Continuing to repeat falsehoods does not make them true. The creationist position that things were different back then has been totally refuted for at least the last 150 years and ALL of the evidence agrees.

There was no Biblical Flood and it has been raining on Earth for billions of years.

Spouting utter nonsense that creationists believe is not evidence.


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