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Author Topic:   What is the Latest On Dr Schweitzer Trex Soft Tissue Find?
mram10
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Message 1 of 33 (733371)
07-16-2014 4:32 PM


Has anyone heard the LATEST reasoning behind the tissue being soft after 65mil years? This is obviously a huge find.

Please bring only scientific answers to the questions and not accusations as to why I am asking.


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mram10
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Message 9 of 33 (733542)
07-17-2014 11:47 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Pressie
07-17-2014 1:10 AM


Thank you for the explanations. I wasn't aware the collagen could last 65 mil years. Amazing.

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mram10
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Message 14 of 33 (733626)
07-19-2014 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by dwise1
07-19-2014 1:50 AM


I would wish to direct everybody's attention to a particular number. Namely mram10's total number of posts.

24.

I'm not very smart nor sharp. But isn't that the typical number of posts that students in Sunday School and other typical bullshit creationist classes are asked to post to websites?

mram10 has already posted the number of posts he needs for his homework assignment. I very much doubt that we will ever see him again.

I would also point out that my "homework" has taken me over a year to post 24 times

Seriously?? It amazes me that some of you consider yourselves "scientists". Again, thank you for the laugh this morning

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Off-topic banner.


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mram10
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Message 15 of 33 (733627)
07-19-2014 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by hooah212002
07-18-2014 1:42 AM


I am curious as to what research you yourself had done on this subject before coming here and asking. You know the subject well enough to know a name and that name along with "t-rex" brings up the relevant article on google, so I have to wonder: what was your reasoning for asking here if your only response is "neat"? Do you have any thought provoking original ideas regarding this discovery? do you have an alternate theory as to how soft tissue survived so long?

I bring it up here, hoping people have more information. The articles are written for the general public and have stated "red blood cells", etc. It makes it easier to track down the associated articles by asking those that are interested, then it is to google and go through 100 articles.

Like the member pic


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mram10
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Message 16 of 33 (733629)
07-19-2014 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Pressie
07-18-2014 6:49 AM


You should read more scientific articles and fewer religious websites masquerading as "science".

The collagen had to be demineralised. Dr Schweitzer (an evangelical Christian) et al showed a way soft tissues can be preserved as long as those fossils exist, by publising their research in peer-reviewed scientific journals. You should try to tell your creationist buddies how science is done.

I was not aware the smithsonian mag was religious. Noted Here is the link I was reading:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/.../dinosaur-shocker-115306469

Do you have any "real" sources that are totally unbiased?


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mram10
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Message 22 of 33 (733661)
07-19-2014 8:08 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Dr Adequate
07-19-2014 1:48 PM


From the abstract of Schweitzer's paper:

Soft tissues are preserved within hindlimb elements of Tyrannosaurus rex (Museum of the Rockies specimen 1125). Removal of the mineral phase reveals transparent, flexible, hollow blood vessels containing small round microstructures that can be expressed from the vessels into solution. Some regions of the demineralized bone matrix are highly fibrous, and the matrix possesses elasticity and resilience.

Wow! This is the first time you replied to me without name calling or rude comments Thanks. It was actually a really good explanation.

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mram10
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Message 25 of 33 (734157)
07-26-2014 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by Pressie
07-21-2014 6:19 AM


Re: Smiley faces
Thanks Prissie
You offend many second hand car salesmen out there
It's easy to jump on the secular science bandwagon. It is much harder to be a real scientist and question everything. Einstein's theories were a little revolutionary too.

(here comes the, "are you comparing yourself to Einstein?")


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