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jar
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Message 67 of 740 (733848)
07-22-2014 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by Faith
07-21-2014 11:44 PM


same old bullshit from Faith
When you REALLY know how to listen you'll hear the story of a great catastrophe by water.

We are still listening for you to present the model, method, process that your imagined flood catastrophe could produce what is seen.

It's been over a decade now and you have never presented such a critter.

Ah, do I hear you planning to claim that you have provided such evidence? Great. Please provide a link to that post for us.


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jar
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Message 494 of 740 (734633)
07-31-2014 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 484 by Faith
07-31-2014 2:16 PM


Faith once again shows she is lying.
Faith writes:

You wish, but to believe this is just my faulty theology you have to deny the plain testimony of the Bible.

But as has been pointed out to you many, many times, you DO deny the plain testimony of the Bible and constantly misrepresent what the Bible stories actually say.

Biblical Christianity is based on willful dismissal of what the Bible actually says as well as willful ignorance of all the evidence and reality.

Your whole posting history is based on lying about reality and what the Bible actually says.


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jar
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Message 652 of 740 (735004)
08-04-2014 12:12 PM


Why are New depositions strangely different from old strata
That's a great question with a pretty simple answer; newer deposits are much newer, millions, sometimes billions of years newer than older deposits. That should seem obvious but perhaps it is not.

Newer deposits often come from eroding and weathering older deposits. The result when combined with living materials is what we call soil. It can also be sand or gravel and transported by gravity or wind or water.

It is a process though and continuing. We usually live on the topmost layer but digging a trench in soil will often yield evidence of when others lived on what was then the top most layer. We can with very high confidence examine evidence from the last 20-30,000 years and remain in the layer we call "soil".

The pattern, process, method though is pretty simple. High spots get worn down while low spots get filled up.

Fortunately though there are other forces going on all the time. Parts of the surface get pushed up, parts get sucked down, sometimes the molten core breaks through and adds a new island or mountain or lava bed. As pieces parts that are now "soil" get buried deeper and deeper the pressure and temperature will increase and the soil will take on new characteristics becoming rock instead of "soil". Even then change can continue with the very nature of the material changing yet again. A great example is the granite found in Yosemite which is among the hardest granite found anywhere.

But so far no one has ever presented a model, process or method for what is seen that does not require long, long, long periods of time.

Faith has never presented a model, method or process where the flood she claims happened (I'm not sure which of the mutually exclusive Biblical Floods she considers to be the right one) could do anything that is seen. The best she has presented has been that the flud picked up what is seen somewhere else and then moved it to where it is found now yet never explains how her flud could do such a thing or how the object could be created in the first place so it could be moved.

That the geologic column is growing and changing is more than adequately evidenced; I have to wash my car, when it rains I can see part of my yard being washed into the street.

So the answer to why the New depositions are strangely different from old strata is just "Time".


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Message 727 of 740 (735266)
08-08-2014 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 723 by Percy
08-08-2014 8:56 AM


Re: Discussion Can Continue
Percy writes:

Certainly Faith is honest and sincere in the extreme, but only by her own highly personal set of rules and guidelines to which we're not really privy.

And that is exactly the issue.

Faith (and all Biblical Christians) idea of honest is totally unrelated to anything anyone else could identify as honest. In fact it can only be described as "willful lying" under any normal definition.

I have no doubt that Faith and the typical Biblical Christian are sincere unlike the pastors, evangelists and anyone claiming to be a Creation Scientist but sincere and honest are not synonymous.

The issue is that Biblical Christianity demands personal dishonesty, you MUST lie to yourself constantly in order to even be a Biblical Christian beginning by denying the many contradictions in the various Bible stories, accepting so called prophecies that are claimed but refuted by the facts, placing "source" over "content" and willfully issolating yourself from any threats to your belief system.

What Faith is doing yet again is simply adopting the "avoidance" tactic that is a classic symptom of the Christian Cult of Ignorance. She retreats to her blog just like Christian Radio and TV and most Christian Avoidance Schools and much of Home Schooling and separate peer review groups, wikis, browsers and accrediting boards.

Call Faith sincere and I doubt anyone would even comment but to use the term 'honest" in relation to Faith is to resort to Newspeak.


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