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jar Member  Posts: 30934 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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DrJones* Member  Posts: 1803 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
of course not, why would I blame something that there is no evidence for? You stated a tail would be very useful, according to you god designed everything, ergo, your god made a mistake when she didn't give you a very useful tail. It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Capt Stormfield Member  Posts: 402 From: Vancouver Island Joined: Member Rating: 6.4
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What do you suppose the "natural" in natural selection means? Why would a natural process need to be put in motion? What does that even mean? How could a process like NS not work in an imperfectly reproducing population? Seems like it would require outside intervention to stop it, not to start it. Unless I miss my guess, your real question would be more accurately stated as "why is there something instead of nothing". Could we just skip the next several hundred wasted posts and say "don't know" right now?
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Dr Adequate Member  Posts: 16083 Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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I do not find bare assertions on your part particularly convincing.
These are all things that I can do without a tail. How about you? Here are some more things I can do without a tail: not shut my tail in a door by accident, not break a bone in my tail, not get an infected wound in my tail, not get gangrene in my tail, not have mosquitoes bite my tail, not have parasites burrow into the flesh of my tail ... So when you come to me telling me that a tail would be an advantage because if I had one I could do stuff that I can do anyway, it's not much of a selling point. --- Put it this way. Suppose you were to go to a venture capitalist and say that you wanted to start a company to make prosthetic tails. There'd be a huge market for this product, you explain, because they're so gosh-darn useful. Why, you could open doors with them! So can you have a few million dollars for R&D? How do you suppose you'd get on? In fact, we know how you think you'd get on, because you have not, in fact, tried to meet this supposed need, have you? (This is supposition on my part, I admit, and if you have in fact founded a start-up company called Tails R Us, then I shall apologize for jumping to conclusions and admit the sincerity of your argument. Otherwise, not so much.)
You are not obliged to answer me; I shall form my own judgment as to why you do not.
Oh, look, you also got my name wrong. Did you take some sort of religious vow? It is hard otherwise to account for such obsessive consistency extending, as it does, to the most trivial of details. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
If we were in the same room, hopefully when you asked a question as poorly phrased as this one, the question would get rephrased in short order. In this case, we can note that your question was answered multiple times.
This appears to me to be a question easily answered by considering what can be confirmed by the scientific method. But perhaps this is just another poorly phrased question. Should we wait for you to rephrase the question or should we attempt to answer? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Omnivorous Member (Idle past 1015 days)  Posts: 3808 From: Adirondackia Joined:
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But then she'd have made a monkey of him, rather than letting him do it for himself. "If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
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ringo Member  Posts: 16147 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.0
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That isn't how evolution works. It doesn't anticipate what "might" be useful. If an organism born without a tail survives to reproduce, the "tail gene" may be missing in its offspring. Eventually, a tailless population may evolve. You should be thinking about why the tail wasn't useful - i.e. why the ones without tails survived - instead of telling evolution what it "should have done".
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djufo Member (Idle past 1502 days) Posts: 55 From: FL Joined: |
Simple: Homos never naturally evolved from any monkey. Otherwise, prove it.
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RAZD Member  Posts: 19732 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
All Homosapiens (Homos) are hominids, and we share a common hominid ancestor with other hominids, like our cousins the Neanderthals. All hominids are apes, and we share a common ape ancestor with other apes, particularly chimpanzees, our closest ape cousins. All apes share a common primate ancestor with monkeys, but apes evolved to be tail-less before hominids evolved, and thus hominids did not have a (prehensile) tail to lose, just the remnant coccyx. You are correct that humans did not evolve from monkeys, but wrong that humans did not evolve from primates. The evidence is readily available in documents on the internet if you are truly interested in finding out the evolutionary history of humans, based on evidence rather than opinion or belief. Enjoy.
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ringo Member Posts: 16147 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.0 |
In a court of law, the prosecution has to "prove" its case to the jury, not the spectators. Similarly, science aims to make its case to people who have actually looked at the evidence. No offense, but nobody's interested in "proving" anything to you.
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djufo Member (Idle past 1502 days) Posts: 55 From: FL Joined: |
As nobody is interested in the "belief" of the scientific "religion" therefore common sense tells any mortal with average IQ that a creation of homo sapiens makes much more sense than a fairy tail of a missing link.
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Tangle Member  Posts: 6616 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 3.5 |
Harrumph. If you want to have a debate - rather than raise a series of disjointed claims, accusations, technical errors and random side-swipes at science - why don't you stop splattering stuff across numerous forums? Try making a single point and properly present it; preferrably in more than two sentences. At the moment you look like just another muppet. Edited by Tangle, : No reason given. Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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ringo Member Posts: 16147 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.0 |
You didn't repond at all to the post you were replying to. Here it is again: quote: If you want to demostrate that you have an average IQ, try addressing the topic instead of blathering inane platitudes.
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djufo Member (Idle past 1502 days) Posts: 55 From: FL Joined: |
I see a lot of emotions going on. Usually emotions are used and manipulated by "science" to successfully convince the masses into "belief" The only muppets here are those trying to put together a monkey skeleton with shoulders and arms out of place to make it look somewhat similar to a human skeleton next to it. Theres a lot of people who pays for shark meat instead of real tuna and they don't know it. Prove that we evolved from primates. The missing link is just hilarious. Tell me where he lives and where does he works because I can't imagine the descendants of a missing link wearing a suit.
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JonF Member Posts: 4469 Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Nobody's being emotional, but you are merely throwing out unsupported (and unsupportable) claims. Science requires evidence.
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