Why Did Homo Erectus Not Retain a Tail?

Exactly and evidence is what science does not have to support that ridiculous theory. From our most recent supposedly ancestor, we look absolutely different. The bone structure of the head and body is completely different. The extremity bones are made to support the strength of any primate. We radically, magically, lack that strength. If we put those muscles and tendons in our bones, they will shatter like glass. We don't even have the same chromosomes. We have 46, they have 48. Where is the transition. Where is the evolution. Even if it happened there is no time. A change so big, so radical, as we have between the two cretures would take millions of years. Our last common ancestor, DOES show an evolutionary line with its previous ancestors. But between that one and us, is not an evolution. Its a giant leap.

Ok, so you're just another dumb troll. Pity.

And this is the people who teach and write books about human origins

... shysters trying to delude the gullible. Are you one, or are you one of the deluded? The state of being deluded can be cured by learning the correct information (or at least by unlearning the incorrect information, which you exhibit in spades).You post a lot about people being brainwashed and then you post things like this (Message 44 on Why Did Homo Erectus Not Retain a Tail?): Now I've mentioned how cognitive dissonance deals with conflicting information by calling people brainwashed or part of a conspiracy ... and here you are adding conspiracy to the mix. These are emotional responses on your part to not being able to deal with the real world and, in this case, the actual evidence for evolution. Again you display a rather dismally under-informed concept of how evolution works that is just laughable. Again if this is what somebody taught you then they lied. AND again you can find remedial education at: Berkeley Evolution 101: An Introduction to EvolutionEnjoy

Between 8 and 10 million years according to the evidence. Fossil and genetic. Why do these completely different avenues of evidence provide the same answer? This has been answered, you mocked it (an emotional response) rather than provided information that the answer was invalid (which would be a scientific response).We can also compare DNA with Neanderthals and with gorillas and see similar differences in different degrees ... as would be expected from evolution. Again, define evolution, the process and the theory.Fossils are like snapshots of the past, and like snapshots of a trip across America they do not tell the complete story. Evolution does not occur in leaps and bounds but slowly generation by generation, just as step by step you can walk across the US. The pictures are not the story, they are evidence that the evolutionary events occurred.Enjoy.

Our most recent ancestor would be what ... ? Archaic H. sapiens? Which actually looks quite a lot like us.

Why you tilt his head forward? let it rest on its original position and overlap a modern homo sapiens. Then try to explain how in the world you come from that monkey to a modern human in one generation.

I know you're just trying to justify your work with those long posts but in reality you are not proving absolutely anything. You are just running in circles with the same fictional ideas that have been running around for decades. You are worried (emotion) about the sustainability of the theory which is more senseless by the day.

That skull is shown in a standard orientation known as the Frankfort Plane or Frankfort Horizontal. That is the normal way to orient skulls--which you obviously did not know.From wiki:

It was decided that a plane passing through the inferior margin of the left orbit (the point called the left orbitale) and the upper margin of each ear canal or external auditory meatus, a point called the porion, was most nearly parallel to the surface of the earth, and also close to the position the head is normally carried in the living subject.

That's idiotic. You really are showing your lack of knowledge and your sullen disregard for what the theory of evolution actually says.It is becoming more and more obvious that you're just a troll. Why don't you just go elsewhere?

What monkey? The picture is of a human skull. Here is another one for comparison: Where's the monkey?

What is this gibberish? I did not tilt its head forward, it is not a monkey, its owner actually had a mobile neck and so it does not have a single "original position", and no-one said anything about one generation. Is there anything you're not wrong about?How about this specimen of archaic Homo? Is its skull tilted back far enough for you to admit that it resembles modern humans, or is it still a monkey? Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

As has been pointed out this demonstrates your absolute ignorance of how evolution works. I've asked you to define the process of evolution and the theory of evolution, and you have evaded that and ignored it ... because you do not know what evolution is.I've given you links to information so that you can correct your ignorance, which apparently, you have ignored as well.You think millions of years of evolution occurred in one generation.LOL.You don't know what evolution is, but you are convinced that it didn't happen.ROFLOL.You are so ignorant of evolution that you have no clue how ignorant you are on evolution.I thought you would be funny.Enjoy.

Thank you for demonstrating your absolute lack of any proper actual intellectual attempt to provide actual factual objective empirical evidence that would substantiate a single one of your claims.You have already demonstrated your abysmal ignorance of how evolution actually works.All you have left in your quiver is empty pot-shots. Curiously I am not worried in the slightest about the viability of an extremely well tested and validated theory ... certainly you have provided no challenge to it.Theories are not invalidated by the wishful thinking of ignorant people, they are invalidated by evidence that they fail tests based on predictions that the theories make.You should sue the people that misinformed you so completely that all you can do is make a bigger fool of yourself than you have already done.The only emotion I feel is a faint sadness that a brain can be so wasted and misused, and willfully stay undereducated, choosing to maintain ignorance.Science isn't challenged by opinion, it is challenged by evidence.Enjoy.

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And Poor Truth, for too long molested.
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Never in the history of History has as much physical
evidence existed to debunk and destroy an existing
scientific theory.
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But it certainly DOES EXIST -- in spades -- concerning
the theory of man's evolution (and other creatures,
for that matter).
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The discovery of thousands upon thousands of petrified
bones, teeth and even soft organs -- SOME HUMAN --
between coal veins has proven that Charles Darwin's
fable, "Origin of Species" isn't worth the papyrus
it was written on.
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It means that man, in almost our present form, had
existed while anthracite was formed, and the most
golden rule of geology is that coal is at least
280 million years old.
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Therefore, these discoveries certainly offer the
undeniable evidence that the majority of evolutionists,
atheists and physical anthropologists guilty of being
willful PARTICIPANTS in a monumental conspiracy
gainst mankind.
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PETRIFIED BONES, TEETH, SOFT ORGANS
-- SOME HUMAN -- FOUND BETWEEN COAL VEINS
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State-of-the-art testing by American Medical Labs
revealed that at least six of Ed Conrad's fossils, all
bearing a distinct resemblance to human bones via human
comparative anatomy, contain dried blood and, in some
cases, other relative components.
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This offers state-of-the-art scientific evidence that
Ed Conrad is right and the arrogant, ignorant, pompous
buffoons wearing the white coats and dunce hats are
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The really scary part in all of this is how the bones,
teeth and even soft organs got broken and petrified.
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It can mean only one thing: The humans and animals
that existed on earth eons ago were destroyed in an
earth-shattering catastrophe.
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Anyone -- and I certainly mean ANYONE -- who doubts
that I've discovered thousands upon thousands of
petrified remains of man and animals is a fraud and
a phony.
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The list includes the so-called "experts" at the
Smithsonian Institution, the University of California
at Berkeley, Harvard University, the U.S. Geological
Survey, Penn State University, the Paleontological
Research Institution, the University of Pennsylvania
and tenured-fossil professors of anthropology,
paleontology, geology amd physics -- to mention
just a few -- in America's universities.
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I can ask "Why?" But I don't have to since I know WHY
this monumental hoax has long been perpetrated against
mankind.
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It boils down to the protection of vested interests. The
Scoundrels of Science are fully aware that siding with
Truth can adversely affect their careers, their lucrative
weekly paychecks and their cushy positions.
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God forbid, they dare not make any waves. So the mind-
boggling lie has gone on and on and on.
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OTHER DISCOVERIES BETWEEN COAL VEINS
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HUMAN CRANIUM EMBEDDED IN A BOULDER
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The following photos were taken while the human skull in
the boulder was on display at an international exhibit
in Berlin, Germany.
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Meanwhile, a variety of other state-of-the-art testing
has confirmed that Ed Conrad's mind-boggling discoveries
are Neither rocks nor concretions but fossils of creatures
that once lived, quite a few of them human.
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They included testing for the presence of Haversian
canals (the tell-tale sign of bone), CATscans, and
SEM (scanning electronic microscope) investigation,
to mention just a few.
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And let's NOT FORGET that the late Wilton M. Krogman,
one of the world's foremost human anatomists and
author of the book,"The Human Skeleton in Forensic
Medicine," had personally examined and tested one
of the discoveries and concluded that it's a calvarium,
a human skull with the eye sockets broken off.
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Scrapings from the object embedded in the boulder were tested
by American Medical Laboratories in Chantilly, Va. --
considered the most prestigious medical laboratory in the
world -- which documented that they contain DRIED BLOOD.
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AML had performed testing on at least a half-dozen of Ed
Conrad's key specimens via Calculus Analysis by Crystal-
ography, the presence of blood was confirmed in an official
"Final Report" authorized by Dr. Nathan Sherman, director
of laboratories.
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Blood not only was found in the skull-like object embedded
in the boulder but in the specimen that Krogman identified
as a calvarium, a human skull with the eye sockets broken
off; the fossil that he identified as a tibia; in two
specimens that appear to be human jawbones, and in others.
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It's important to note that highly respected Dr. Geoffrey
Bourne, who had served as director of Yerkes Regional
Primate Research Center for many years, had tested one
of the discoveries between coal veins and identified it
as B-O-N-E in written correspondence.
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Here's a petrified dinosaur foot still embedded in slate.
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"We can forgive a child
who is afraid of the dark.
The real tragedy of life
is when men are afraid
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in the ring, Ed. You're also fighting
the referee and the three judges."
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ANOTHER CONSPIRACY AGAINST TRUTH
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http://www.edconrad.org

You get my nomination for one of the most poorly formatted messages of the decade, plus you don't seem to be engaging the current discussion. It looks like you simply chose to post something you had already posted elsewhere, and poking around the Internet I see that's precisely the case. For example, you posted pretty much the same text here: http://soc.mailarchive.ca/culture.usa/2013-02/3694.html--Percy