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Author Topic:   If evolution is true, where did flying creatures come from?
Coyote
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Message 17 of 225 (737592)
09-27-2014 12:13 PM


When considering flying and how it originated, the flying fish (actually a glider) might be considered a "missing link" if those species actually develop a form of true flight--in a million or ten years.

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Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
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Message 111 of 225 (757554)
05-10-2015 2:37 PM


Creationists’ Scientific Method
Creationists’ Scientific Method:
1. Select a conclusion which you hope is true.
2. Find one piece of evidence that possibly might fit.
3. Ignore all other evidence.
4. That’s it.
Thanks to the Sensuous Curmudgeon
Look, Drool, Believe | The Sensuous Curmudgeon

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

  
Coyote
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Message 123 of 225 (757566)
05-10-2015 8:56 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by Faith
05-10-2015 8:17 PM


Re: Evolution of What3ever
Faith, we understand the argument you are making.
The problem (for you) is that we find it to be contrary to the real world evidence.
You can explain the fine details of your conjecture all you want, but it is still contrary to the real world evidence. Really, its total nonsense.
The posters here have been entirely too kind in trying to persuade you with real world evidence, which you totally ignore because it goes against your ancient tribal beliefs.
My question: why should we pay any attention to your arguments when they are totally contradicted by the evidence? What is the use in trying to convince someone, using real world evidence, who rejects totally that real world evidence?
I've been wondering, what you are really doing here? Are you witnessing? Preaching? Trying to convince us of the accuracy of your arguments? Trying to convince yourself of the accuracy of your arguments? Trying to influence any lurkers who don't know any better?
I do appreciate your being here for a several reasons. First, it gives us an opportunity to sharpen our arguments and evidence, and that's always good. Secondly, it gives us an opportunity to see first-hand how unyielding belief can kill any ability to learn from, or accept, real world evidence. That is a useful study in abnormal psychology. And third, for some reason I actually like you! I'd be willing to bet you'd be a lot more fun in a different setting with a skinful of your preferred adult beverage.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Coyote
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Message 131 of 225 (757574)
05-10-2015 10:09 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Faith
05-10-2015 9:04 PM


Re: Evolution of What3ever
In my opinion your entire post should be cause for moderator action.
As for its content, you are absolutely wrong. Both Dr. A and NoNukes have demonstrated that they do not understand my argument, and I would guess the same is true of you.
If you have a problem, post on the proper thread and the moderators will deal with it.
For the rest of your post, nice try, but no cigar. Your arguments are total nonsense, as has been pointed out to you for literally years. But you can't accept that so you keep on spouting the same nonsense, year after year, in spite of all the evidence that has been presented.
You ignore the evidence we post because it shows you are absolutely wrong.
In doing so, you have become the poster-child for creationism on this website. And the quality of your arguments tells us all we need to know about creationists and faith-based science.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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