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Author Topic:   The US Civil War as an example of God's Wrath.
ringo
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Message 7 of 96 (741179)
11-10-2014 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Faith
11-10-2014 10:53 AM


Faith writes:

Perhaps it would be more instructive to consider it in terms of percentage:


So, as a percentage the death rate was about equal? By that standard, it would be legitimate to shoot one innocent bystander for every criminal we have to shoot? For every second flight across the ocean we crash one plane? For every second trip to the 7-11 we wreck one car?

That seems like a messy way to solve a problem.


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Message 10 of 96 (741183)
11-10-2014 11:27 AM
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11-10-2014 11:20 AM


Faith writes:

The conclusion I would draw is that God held both North and South equally responsible for slavery.


Fair enough. That would explain why God kills Christians along with infidels when His wrath comes in the form of hurricanes, etc.

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Message 12 of 96 (741189)
11-10-2014 11:42 AM
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11-10-2014 11:38 AM


Faith writes:

However, as far as percentage of the population goes, the South lost more than the North.


So we're back to my original point: Kill a few good guys to get a few more bad guys. Messy.

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Message 75 of 96 (741450)
11-12-2014 11:52 AM
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11-11-2014 11:09 PM


NoNukes writes:

Even after secession, the issue of what would happen in the territories and what was to happen to runaway slaves was probably going to lead to shooting.


What led inevitably to shooting, in my humble Canadian opinion, was the fact that the states had their own armies ("militias"). In Canada, the provinces can disagree "violently" with the federal government or with each other but they can't do anything about it.

Maybe the Civil War was God's punishment for having a flawed constitution.


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Message 77 of 96 (741453)
11-12-2014 12:19 PM
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11-12-2014 12:14 PM


NoNukes writes:

Both sides raised real armies pretty quickly. Those armies did most of the fighting.


If the state militias hadn't seized the federal arsenals right after secession, there wouldn't have been anything to fight with.

NoNukes writes:

We've since amended the constitution to remove much of those issues.


I'm glad to hear it's perfect now.

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