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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
bee writes: Maybe my words carry more weight than yours? Maybe my words carry more weight than yours?
I think it to be true. Therefore, it is likely that I speak the truth. I think it be not true etc etc. Can you see that you're only offering a personal opinion which can be no more valid than mine? You can't make an argument like this.
A destiny that is unfulfilled is not destiny. So how do we know when a destiny is fulfilled and when it isn't?Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Video gaming is great fantasy. Even some religion is fantasy. I too am a Christian believer. I believe that destiny is fulfilled by remaining in communion. God is past, present, and future. We are only present. Therefore, the more often that we are in communion, the closer we get to fulfilling our destiny.
Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo One of the major purposes of debate is to help you hone your arguments. Yours are pretty bad. They can use all the honing they can get.~Ringo
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Heathen Member (Idle past 1312 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined: |
I define Destiny as the fulfillment of our purpose in life
So, what is YOUR purpose in life?How do you know? Not as random occurrences How do you know something is a "random" occurrence or not?
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
It might be possible that everybody ever has had a destiny but how could anyone ever know?
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: |
bee writes: Destiny, I believe, exists. But I also believe strongly that not everyone fulfills their destinies. Those who do decide to fulfill them, live a rich and meaningful life... I agree with you. I think, anyway...I agree with what I think you're talking about I don't call it "destiny" though, because that word doesn't really fit.It carries too many pre-destination connotations with it that don't quite align with what I think you're trying to get at. Like when you say "not everyone fulfills their destinies."This remark alone implies that you are using some sort of definition of "destiny" that is not what is normally meant. Normally, "destiny" refers to an unavoidable future. If it really is unavoidable, then it would be impossible for anyone to not fulfill their destiny. There's a slightly different version of the word though... "destiny" can refer to a future that you're supposed to have. Whether or not you take the path to that future is up to you (or is sometimes out of your control, even)... it is easily avoidable, and can sometimes be hard to find. This definition of "destiny" I agree with. I just don't call it destiny - I'd call it being honest with yourself and using self-reflection to find out what it is you actually, really want out of life. For example:Let's say Phil wants to be a mechanic. He loves tinkering with physical tools and such and he enjoys it immensely. But Phil's dad was a radio talk-show host. Phil's dad trains Phil to be a radio talk-show host because that's all he knows. Now Phil has two choices - become a mechanic or become a radio talk-show host. It's obvious here that if Phil decides to become a mechanic, he has a much greater chance of living "a rich and meaningful life" because he's doing something that he wants to do... something that aligns with his inner self. If Phil becomes a radio talk-show host, he'll always have a nagging suspicion that he should actually be a mechanic. He has a large chance to become frustrated and resentful towards being a radio talk-show host just because he knows he'd rather be a mechanic. Now, that's a really simple example.Real life is more complicated and it's not so easy to "just know" that you want to be a mechanic or a radio talk-show host or whatever. The path, though, to living a rich and meaningful life, is making sure that you are making the important decisions that affect the important aspects of your life.(Importance here is also determined by you) This way, you are doing what you want. That alone carries a certain level of self-fulfillment with it. Honestly figuring out what it is you want in life is something much easier said than done. But the fact remains that you are the only person who can do it
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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: |
bee writes: That, combined with my deep Christian devotion, made me believe that there is more to life than playing video games. Perhaps for you.For someone who's destiny is to play video games, though... that is the path for them to live a rich and meaningful life. Don't think that something you subjectively don't like is somehow objectively lesser.That only leads to confusion. Who knows? Maybe you just don't understand how to play video games in the right way to gain a rich and meaningful life out of them.It's okay, I'm sure video games aren't for everyone. But to say that they're for no one... well, that's just nave and immature.
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bee Junior Member (Idle past 3435 days) Posts: 28 Joined: |
I disagree completely.
I know that Jesus preached to us, to "let our light shine before others." It was vague, but I think he meant, "Hey, God made you to be something. Become it, or you won't receive salvation. Understood?"
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bee Junior Member (Idle past 3435 days) Posts: 28 Joined: |
My purpose in life? I don't know yet. I have yet to discover it.
But when I do, I will fulfill it. As far as how I can know, I'll simply trust my instincts. We can all agree here that God gave us a mind that can figure things out. I can pray and say, "Hi God. How are you? I was wondering if you can tell me what my purpose is." But of course, I won't do that. lol It'll be a lot more fun if I figure it out myself. That's what life is about!
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bee Junior Member (Idle past 3435 days) Posts: 28 Joined: |
By what they regret.
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bee Junior Member (Idle past 3435 days) Posts: 28 Joined: |
I gave a bad example. I'm sorry.
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bee Junior Member (Idle past 3435 days) Posts: 28 Joined: |
It's hard for me to define it but I'll try.
I would not call it "purpose," because purpose is too definitive. I wanted a little allure to my words. That's why I chose the word "Destiny" over the measly word "Purpose," even though to me, they're the same. I define destiny as what is bound to happen if we were all aligned with ourselves and the universe. A Taoist monk, a Buddhist monk, a Yogi, and a True Christian will know exactly what I'm talking about. To most people though, it's a very weird and foreign concept, I think.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
If you look at the whole quote it refutes your interpretation.
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. It means that God gets the glory for your hard works.The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined:
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By what they regret. Now I see where you went wrong. You are conflating doing what one wants to with Destiny. I'm the kind of person who does not have regrets: does that mean I've achieved my destiny? Edited by Larni, : formattingThe above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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bee Junior Member (Idle past 3435 days) Posts: 28 Joined: |
The very fact that you are asking, "How do I find out what my destiny is," shows youthful ignorance.
It's instinctive, and requires lots of belief not just in God, but in oneself. You have to believe that you are meant for something. If you believe that, you will discover your destiny, or purpose, easily. As far as deciding whether or not you have fulfilled your destiny, you don't. Again, youthful ignorance. It's just something that you feel. It's like asking, "How does one breathe?" or "How do I decide if whether or not I have exhaled oxygen out of my lungs?" Does someone somewhere have a list? Yes. It's God. But that's coming from a Christian's viewpoint. Are they checking it twice? Now you're just being a smartass. Better a smartass than a dumbass, I guess. lol.
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