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bee
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Message 46 of 84 (743055)
11-26-2014 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Tempe 12ft Chicken
11-26-2014 12:19 PM


I use the word Destiny as a substitute for the word Purpose.

I'm not talking about Clairvoyance or Fortune. I'm talking about a path that one chooses.

I should have made that very clear in the beginning. I apologize.


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bee
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Message 47 of 84 (743056)
11-26-2014 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by ringo
11-26-2014 12:22 PM


Re: Destiny 101
Alexander was miserable because he resorted to base pleasures instead of getting a meaningful hobby, like, you know, writing poetry, making sculptures, blacksmithing, whatever. Of course, I'm talking about the time when he was on top of the world and conquered the most lands (before Genghis Khan wooped his ass as far as who conquered more. Not literally in war against each other).

I never knew Napoleon had hemmorhoids. I'll look that up.

And no. Men who build nations do not fuck up the world. They define it.

I know it's their destiny because I'm a True Christian, and people who are in my level of enlightenment can see the Matrix.

You won't understand until you get at least close to our level.

Edited by bee, : No reason given.


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Larni
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Message 48 of 84 (743057)
11-26-2014 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by bee
11-26-2014 12:28 PM


So how does anyone know what their special purpose is?

Even if we allow hindsight, what are the markers of somebody who has achieved their purpose?

What happens when one achieves his special purpose?

Do they get to reroll on Purpose Chart(6b)?

Have you really thought this idea through?

Edited by Larni, : DVD extras


The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


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Tempe 12ft Chicken
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Message 49 of 84 (743059)
11-26-2014 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by bee
11-26-2014 12:28 PM


bee writes:

I use the word Destiny as a substitute for the word Purpose.

Yes, I am aware of how you are using the word. How do you differentiate your "Purpose" before the fact? Or, like Destiny, is it merely in hindsight that you can see that all decisions prior led to toward a certain outcome? If you are enjoying your path, as I was with music, how are you sure that this is the proper Purpose without rational exploration of the evidence and where this path will take you? In this case, how are you not basing your ideas on previous experience? When I wanted to work in music, I was absolutely sure I would do nothing else. However, I had never experienced the politics that are involved with teaching High School kids and it quickly absorbed the enjoyment from the work.

What is the difference between Purpose/Destiny and making rational decisions for one's future based on previous experiences that an individual has had in this world?


The theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. - Richard Dawkins

Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Issac Asimov

If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a person’s body, and tied them end-to-end…the person will die. - Neil Degrasse Tyson

What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. - Robin Williams


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Larni
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Message 50 of 84 (743060)
11-26-2014 12:37 PM


bee writes:

I know it's their destiny because I'm a True Christian, and people who are in my level of enlightenment can see the Matrix.

Fuck it, I'm out of here. This guys a kook.


The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


  
Coyote
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Message 51 of 84 (743061)
11-26-2014 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by bee
11-26-2014 12:34 PM


Re: Nonsense 101
I know it's their destiny because I'm a True Christian, and people who are in my level of enlightenment can see the Matrix.

You won't understand until you get at least close to our level.

Don't forget to tell us what the little voices in your head are telling you.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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Message 52 of 84 (743063)
11-26-2014 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by bee
11-26-2014 12:34 PM


Okay, now that is even funnier...thanks.
I know it's their destiny because I'm a True Christian, and people who are in my level of enlightenment can see the Matrix.

Good, great, even funnier than bringing in the devil.

Love it.

You are destined for a career in stand-up comedy.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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bee
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Message 53 of 84 (743064)
11-26-2014 12:46 PM


I feel that my destiny is to rule the world.

But again, I could be wrong. I just feel it.


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Message 54 of 84 (743065)
11-26-2014 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by bee
11-26-2014 11:46 AM


It's instinctive, and requires lots of belief not just in God, but in oneself.

What if your destiny is to believe in Vishnu, or no gods at all? What if your destiny is to discover that gods are all invented by men?


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Tangle
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Message 55 of 84 (743067)
11-26-2014 12:59 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by bee
11-26-2014 12:34 PM


Re: Destiny 101
bee writes:

I know it's their destiny because I'm a True Christian, and people who are in my level of enlightenment can see the Matrix.

Have you stopped taking the pills?

It's pretty clear by now that your answer to every challenge is simply "because I say so."

If you can't start building a coherant case for your position you're going to get dismissed pretty quickly as a fruit-loop - we see a lot here.


Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Coyote
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Message 56 of 84 (743068)
11-26-2014 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by bee
11-26-2014 12:46 PM


I feel that my destiny is to rule the world.

But again, I could be wrong. I just feel it.

Then again, you're probably just off your meds.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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bee
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Message 57 of 84 (743069)
11-26-2014 1:03 PM
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11-26-2014 12:59 PM


Re: Destiny 101
Ever thought of the possibility that maybe I'm God Himself?

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Tangle
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Message 58 of 84 (743071)
11-26-2014 1:07 PM
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11-26-2014 1:03 PM


Re: Destiny 101
I admit that would explain a lot.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 59 of 84 (743072)
11-26-2014 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by bee
11-26-2014 1:03 PM


Re: Nonsense 101
Ever thought of the possibility that maybe I'm God Himself?


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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bee
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Message 60 of 84 (743073)
11-26-2014 1:10 PM
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11-26-2014 1:07 PM


Re: Destiny 101
I am not God.

I am the Angel Gabernicus sent by God to the Internet to see how His people are doing as far as what they believe.

I don't think my Master will be pleased. But then again, who am I? I'm just a demigod. Not God Himself.


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