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xongsmith
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Message 199 of 578 (744483)
12-11-2014 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by Faith
12-11-2014 12:21 PM


Faith writes:
I wasn't clear enough. It's lefties who stir up the mob, sometimes even import them into the town to burn things down. Individual politics in such a mob is no doubt generic lefty, however, because only a lefty would think it a good thing to burn down businesses in response to a false charge of racism against the cops.
I have no idea how you got the notion that the lefties would import violence into a peace march. It's the Right Wingers who do that. All the folks on the left deplore the rioting. I have no idea how you got so misinformed.

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xongsmith
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Message 200 of 578 (744485)
12-11-2014 2:36 PM
Reply to: Message 184 by Faith
12-10-2014 2:55 PM


Faith makes a list:
Economic collapse
Takeover by foreigners / spread of Sharia Law / more beheadings
Rioting and destruction provoked by Leftists
Military or something like SS troops, running things
Possibly Ebola
Actually there are lots of factors I could include, I don't know which combo is going to be the winning mix as it were, and it could take less time or more time. I'm trying to be specific for the sake of a wager but I'm expecting basically a general sort of breakdown of the nation due to Political Correctness and related factors.
Let me add Nazification. A room full of Nazi paraphernalia was found in an American mosque recently. In Brazil, which of course isn't the US but I take it as a harbinger, a utility bill was sent out saying "Be a patriot, Kill a Jew." I think anti-Semitism is going to rise here, due mostly to Islam. Rioting is one of their tactics too. They've been burning down Marseille for some time now. I don't see anything to stop it from coming here, thanks to Political Correctness.
There could be a right wing uprising in all this too of course, but I think the lefties have the firepower to overcome it.
Yes Political Correctness. That's the engine of our destruction, Political Correctness backed up by violence.
1. Economic Collapse - certainly a fault of the short-sighted Corporatists running country, if it happens (elect a Republican in 2016, and this looks more likely)
2. Takeover by foreigners / spread of Sharia Law / more beheadings - this is a Right Wing effect, not left wing.
3. Rioting and destruction provoked by Leftists - you have misidentified the embedded rioters as leftists, rather than Right Wingers.
4. Military or something like SS troops, running things - right down the agenda of the most batshit Right Wingers.
5. Possibly Ebola - this is really not left/right, you say "possibly" and then wish to blame the left if it should occur. Dismiss this.
6. Let me add Nazification. A room full of Nazi paraphernalia was found in an American mosque recently. In Brazil, which of course isn't the US but I take it as a harbinger, a utility bill was sent out saying "Be a patriot, Kill a Jew." I think anti-Semitism is going to rise here, due mostly to Islam. Rioting is one of their tactics too. They've been burning down Marseille for some time now. I don't see anything to stop it from coming here, thanks to Political Correctness.
- but the leftists are the most vehemently anti-Nazi group in the USA. It's the right wingnuts that are neo-Nazis. So this is incorrectly attributed to leftists.
7. There could be a right wing uprising in all this too of course, but I think the lefties have the firepower to overcome it.
- but it is the right wingnuts walking around with open carry in stores, is the right wingnuts who stand down the Federal agents at the Bundy Ranch. It is the right wingnuts who build bunkers full of weapons. The lefties would get massacred head-to-head.
8. Yes Political Correctness. That's the engine of our destruction, Political Correctness backed up by violence.
- PC really doesn't have traction in the demise of a country. It's more of a namby-pamby liberal thing than a lefty thing. And some of it is good. It is certainly not Politically Correct for a white to address a black with the n-word.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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xongsmith
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Message 201 of 578 (744486)
12-11-2014 2:40 PM


While it may be true that each individual case is unclear on whether racism was a contributing factor, it is impossible to ignore the overwhelming statistics of the whole picture. I am thinking of the gas law of pressure against a wall. While each individual molecule may not be directed against the wall, there is a measurable collective pressure against it.
Edited by xongsmith, : No reason given.

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xongsmith
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Message 202 of 578 (744488)
12-11-2014 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by xongsmith
12-11-2014 2:36 PM


Just follow up on my other reply to Faith:
It's the embedded rightwingers that cause the riots.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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xongsmith
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Message 228 of 578 (744534)
12-11-2014 10:20 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by Faith
12-11-2014 5:08 PM


Faith asks:
then what's wrong with the solution of having more black police in black neighborhoods?
I agree. Let's get the whiteys out.

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Message 229 of 578 (744535)
12-11-2014 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 227 by NoNukes
12-11-2014 10:07 PM


NoNukes notes:
To be clear, it is possible to identify racism in the aggregate.
This is my gas law principle.

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Message 345 of 578 (745776)
12-27-2014 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 344 by Faith
12-27-2014 11:09 AM


Re: Super Predator Myth -- and it' s legacy today
Faith writes:
Still, in whatever situations you have in mind it ought to be possible to actually show if unconscious racism is present. It's going to be expressed in actions one way or another.
Again, like a gas pressure where each individual moving molecule doesn't necessarily directly participate, but the large number of them collectively do - the pressure of society is very measurable against being an American while not white & male.

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Message 367 of 578 (746208)
01-04-2015 3:35 PM


ya know the internet is crawlin' with vicious vipers & trolls
under anonymous cover tryin' to demoralize your souls.
every day on some page there's some new fool's jaw flappin'
an' if you're lookin' for any respect there, heh, it's not gonna happen.
if you're tryin' to make nice, ya get an uppercase bitch-slappin'
an' if you're hopin' they'll fade away, well ... it's not gonna happen.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

  
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Message 451 of 578 (746618)
01-08-2015 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 449 by Faith
01-08-2015 2:18 PM


Re: ThtaT'Re: learned, internalized, automatic, unconscious ... can it be changed?
Faith hallucinates:
They aren't keeping track of how many of what race are found with contraband
wow you are really in need of EDUCATION IN READING COMPREHENSION. sad.

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xongsmith
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Message 452 of 578 (746620)
01-08-2015 3:25 PM
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01-08-2015 2:18 PM


Re: ThtaT'Re: learned, internalized, automatic, unconscious ... can it be changed?
Duplicate.
Percy? Why can't we delete our own messages? Maybe too complex in the database relationships? I can understand, but have to give a *sigh*.
Edited by xongsmith, : in message

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Message 564 of 578 (756256)
04-17-2015 2:49 AM
Reply to: Message 563 by Faith
04-17-2015 12:41 AM


It is so bad, orders of magnitude worse for the poor, people of color and so on. As the Soup Nazi would say "No capital punishment for you 100 years!"

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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