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RAZD
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Message 67 of 330 (792472)
10-10-2016 10:37 AM
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10-10-2016 10:30 AM


Re: Day 85 and glad to be alive
congratulations, now keep going step by step.

Im starting to feel some deep emotions that I cant quite manage...such as fear of being alone, fear of loss (of sanity, perhaps?)

this is where group therapy helps, by seeing and helping others in similar circumstances so you are not alone and not losing touch.

Strength.


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Message 74 of 330 (792687)
10-13-2016 8:21 AM
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10-11-2016 3:07 AM


Re: Day 86
step by step, my friend.

do you have another interest to devote your energy to? a place to "blow off steam?" Exercise can generate endorphins and these can make you feel good about yourself. We joined a gym, and I find it gives me more positive attitude the rest of the day. Side effects: you get healthier ...

Enjoy


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Message 77 of 330 (792902)
10-14-2016 10:52 PM
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10-13-2016 9:29 AM


Re: Day 88 and feeling great!
... Exercise is very important to me, as I have Type II Diabetes and my feet are growing numb and insensitive. ...

Know something like how that feels -- I had neuropathy in my feet following chemo (side effect), and it made my feet nerves fire indiscriminately, and I could not distinguish false signals from real ones, and this created balance problems. Gone now, thankfully.

On a positive note, I am exercising more, getting out more and reuniting with old friends as well as making new ones, and even posting at EvC more...if that counts!

Of course it counts, but be careful ... healthy living can be addictive [/kidding]


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Message 79 of 330 (793330)
10-25-2016 9:06 PM
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10-25-2016 2:53 PM


Re: Day 100 and beginning to feel fear
The unfamiliar feelings are a sign of progress, getting out of the old rut comfort place and stepping out on your own.

keep it up.

<3


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Message 86 of 330 (793476)
10-30-2016 7:57 AM
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10-30-2016 7:53 AM


Re: Day 105 as life marches on!
I dont have anything new to report, ...

Every day is a new thing. Keep up the good work.


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Message 89 of 330 (793545)
11-01-2016 11:33 AM
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11-01-2016 10:19 AM


Re: Day 106
You GO dude!


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Message 97 of 330 (794265)
11-13-2016 7:44 AM
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11-12-2016 3:19 AM


Re: How Long Will This Take?
I have been asking myself how long recovery is going to take.
They did some research....

cool stuff. I remember reading somewhere that it takes at least 3 years before cigarette smokers can feel free of the desire to smoke. Probably different times for different addictions.

Keep up the good work.


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Message 104 of 330 (794904)
12-01-2016 8:24 AM
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11-30-2016 1:25 PM


Re: Day 135
I am experiencing the feeling of recovery. Do i take full credit for that or is it possible that God helped?

Or does your faith/belief keep you inspired/going towards recovery?

Does your church do missionary work?

:hugs:


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Message 108 of 330 (795021)
12-04-2016 9:13 AM
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12-04-2016 2:11 AM


Re: Day 140
This is day # 140, and I am mildly depressed wondering where all the promise of joy has gone. This too shall pass eventually. Right now the emotions are intense.

Woot 20 weeks, 5 months ....

Enjoy


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Message 111 of 330 (795275)
12-10-2016 8:28 AM
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12-09-2016 3:32 AM


Re: Day 145
... One sign is that occasionally I will cry...and I rarely cry. ...

Crying is good.

The healing is taking a lot longer than I first thought, but Im willing to spend a good year or more and get complete healing rather than partial healing followed by relapse.

I've heard that it takes 3 years before it is less conscious avoidance effort and more just unconscious avoidance behavior.

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Message 128 of 330 (795873)
12-18-2016 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 117 by Thugpreacha
12-17-2016 2:31 PM


Religious addiction?
Seeing as how my topic is about addiction, perhaps we could discuss the idea of religion as a possible addiction. At what point does belief and subsequent action become addictive rather than prescriptive?

Well, my two-sense reply is (a) any behavior engaged in that becomes an obsession and disrupts the lives of others could be considered an addiction, and (b) we need to compare this to delusions:

de•lu•sion -noun (American Heritage Dictionary 2009)

  1. a. The act or process of deluding.
    b. The state of being deluded.
  2. A false belief or opinion: labored under the delusion that success was at hand.
  3. Psychiatry A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness: delusions of persecution.

... where there is a world of difference between (2), having a false belief, and (3) ignoring evidence the belief is false.

IMHO the concept/s of god/s is non-falsifiable, just certain beliefs (young earth, WW flood, etc) that come from certain interpretations of dogma or the teaching of others.

Believing you must pray 3 times a day can be seen as possibly interfering or disrupting the lives of others , but wouldn't be delusional ... unless it can be shown to be false.

Likewise, wandering around in a moonstruck haze can be seen as possibly interfering or disrupting the lives of others , but wouldn't be delusional ... unless love can be shown to be false.

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Message 138 of 330 (797173)
01-13-2017 2:28 PM
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01-13-2017 1:05 PM


Re: Day 180
Today is day 180. ...

Yay, a 180° turn completed.

Keep up the good work.


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Message 152 of 330 (797415)
01-20-2017 9:00 AM
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01-20-2017 6:45 AM


Re: Day 187. Personal observations.
Well said.


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Message 155 of 330 (797486)
01-22-2017 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 153 by Thugpreacha
01-21-2017 12:15 PM


Re: Irrationality and Addiction Day 188
Has anyone noticed that as my brain is healing from my addiction, my irrational beliefs seem to have taken on a temporary emotional obsession?

I agree with NoNukes that your posts seem more thoughtful.

You could be experiencing some cognitive dissonance as you recover from your addict mind?

Edited by RAZD, : .


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Message 166 of 330 (799320)
02-09-2017 7:43 AM
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02-09-2017 3:57 AM


Re: Day 206.
All I know is that I am in a marathon. This is not a sprint. I could be in therapy for years. Stay tuned....

If you need a water break or a food stop we are here


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