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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Tangle writes: I would argue that religious views are not by default primitive.
As for my history, I'm also genuinely puzzled why a modern Western democracy, for which I have otherwise great respect, has such a high proportion of it's population holding primitive religious views (and such a destructive gun culture). It's a canundrum which, when pointed out by an outsider, gets these kind of reactions. Tangle writes: Though I am religious, I agree that the laws should be stricken from the books. We should be all about freedom rather than mandatory conformity,IMHO. Well I had to look it up but they're all southern bible belt states and mostly adjacent to each other. What they appear to have in common is that they answer the question "How important is religion in your life?" as very high. Mississippi answering at 82% for example. (wow!) So I guess that's why the laws haven't been repealed. A question. Do you see yourself representing basic human rights or do you feel victimized as an atheist?Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Tangle writes: An atheist does not believe in ANY gods, capitalised or lower case, definite article or not, singular or plural. YHWH or Neptune. How can a atheist be otherwise???? True.
I would love to know how an atheist can believe in god. Or God. Or Gods or gods. Or the god. Or a God. How??? By changing ones belief. You may see it as impossible. Quite likely it is impossible based on how you think,believe, and perceive reality now. It would require an action so serious as to cause you to re-examine your belief. Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Tangle writes: So by this you mean that we either know we believe or know we don't believe in_______________?
It's a plain assertion; confusing knowledge with belief - conflating science with an emotion. To say that you can't know if you believe or not is, obvious, tosh. Just ask Faith. Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I think im the last one...not a Biblical Creationist yet I am a Cosmological Creationist and am a Theistic Evolutionist in regards to this planet
Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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http://xkcd.com/386/Comic
Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy) |
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png
Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
This is what bugs me about atheists. They whine about any mention of God in a secular setting even if they dont believe God exists. Notice how a speaker could say "May the force be with you" or "may the universe favor you" or any number of other things without provoking a reaction...so why the big deal about God?
The incident I refer to is this one:
quote: Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
True, I suppose. Legally, the complainers had a point. My gripe is that they found it so necessary to complain when it appeared everyone else had no problem with it.
Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I suppose that is true. I guess in all honesty I've never tried to see the whole big picture in terms of Privilege.
I don't think it spells the end of religion, but I DO think that religious views will someday be highly unfavorable to a majority of people.Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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