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Author Topic:   Atheists can't hold office in the USA?
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Message 11 of 777 (747286)
01-13-2015 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Tangle
01-13-2015 5:20 PM

Re: It's hard to modify Constitutions
Tangle writes:
Why do these laws still exist in the US?
Why do your tax dollars support the church of England?
Why can the monarch of your country not be Catholic?
Why do you even have a fucking monarch?
Why with less than 3% of the UK being black are they 15% of your prison population?
Why all the anti-Catholic bigotry? You and many of your countrymen sound just like Faith.
I'm sure I could come up with many more questions to ask especially if I had an Irish person to talk to right now. (or a black or a Pakistani)
Actually I don't give a fuck what you do on your POS island. Why are you so concerned with what we do here?
Edited by petrophysics1, : No reason given.

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Message 180 of 777 (748265)
01-24-2015 4:54 AM

The Foundation of the Rights of Man
The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world...............
If you will not sign this then I do not believe you should hold elective office in the United States.
I do not see how you can sign this as an atheist, since it clearly states that the Rights of Man come from God/Creator or from somewhere outside of the purview of man.
If you believe the Rights of Man come from the agreement of those around you, that is NOT the foundation of this country
I live in the only country in the world where my rights are not touchable by man because they come from God( or some place out of this universe) .

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