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Message 688 of 1639 (778273)
02-18-2016 8:28 PM


Trump On Torture
Trump would not only re-institute water-boarding but is in favour of more drastic torture. Just wondering how you tell the good guys from the bad guys. Isn't this the sort of thing that we are supposed to be standing against?
It certainly flies in the face of everything that Christ lived and taught. Maybe the Pope has a point.
Trump says ‘torture works,’ backs waterboarding and much worse

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8

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Message 690 of 1639 (778275)
02-18-2016 8:59 PM
Reply to: Message 689 by Faith
02-18-2016 8:32 PM


Re: Trump On Torture
Faith writes:
Is it OK with you if I think a person may get most things right but not all and still be "a good guy" whatever that is? For that matter if I studied the subject and concluded that waterboarding is necessary, could that automatically make me a "bad guy?" I suspect it would in the context of EvC.
Certainly I don't have to agree with everything that someone stands for, but some things are deal breakers. For me the supporting the use of torture is a deal breaker. I would not support anyone of any party who would advocate such a policy.
Yes, I agree that probably waterboarding or other forms of torture work but that doesn't make it right. There is often a cost to doing the right thing. Do we not stand for anything but looking out for ourselves at all cost? If we lower ourselves to their tactics of fear and retribution then we have lost before we've even begun. As I have said before, if we fight evil with evil then we know evil is going to win out in the end.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8

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Message 701 of 1639 (778293)
02-19-2016 1:48 AM
Reply to: Message 696 by Faith
02-18-2016 10:40 PM


Re: Trump On Torture
Faith writes:
And eventually He Himself is going to come "with flaming fire to take vengeance on" his enemies.
This is the same Jesus who told us to love our enemies? You have taken the message of the embodied Word of God, which tells us to love God, neighbour and enemy, that said blessed are the meek and the peacemakers and turned it into a message of vengeance and horror.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8

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