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Message 63 of 1639 (754885)
04-01-2015 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by New Cat's Eye
04-01-2015 12:20 AM


Re: An outsider's perspective
Why does the marital status of the parents have to do with anything if the mother is a US citizen?
Do you think the gender of the US citizen is relevant?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 64 of 1639 (754886)
04-01-2015 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by NoNukes
04-01-2015 11:26 AM


Re: An outsider's perspective
Again Cat Sci shows that right wing arguments are not based on truth or reality. A hint of racism but no truth.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 67 of 1639 (754906)
04-01-2015 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by NoNukes
04-01-2015 12:36 PM


Re: An outsider's perspective
It does if the mother is not a US citizen and the child was born out of wedlock. I assume this provision is so that the children produced by US GI's overseas are not given citizenship.
quote:
For persons born out of wedlock, the person is a U.S. citizen if all the following apply:
the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the person's birth and
the mother was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the person's birth.
United States nationality law - Wikipedia
CS is deep into the Kool-aid. For in order even if he President Obama was born out of wedlock in a foreign country he would still be a citizen. Alas, evidence shows he was born in the USA and evidence shows that his parents were legally married in the USA at the time of the Presidents birth.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 233 of 1639 (765666)
08-03-2015 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by marc9000
07-29-2015 6:51 PM


Re: Donald Trump is a Democratic plot to make GOP look stupid
I was a teenager in the 1960's. When both Kennedy brothers and Martin Luther King were shot, there was practically no mention of any type of gun control, from the Democrats OR the news madia.
Bullshit. Ever wonder why you cannot buy a rifle mail order as Oswald did? You might want to research stuff before you display your total lack of knowledge. Is your ignorance willful and on purpose?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 238 of 1639 (765736)
08-05-2015 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 237 by MrHambre
08-05-2015 6:24 AM


Re: Fox Hath Spoken
Bernie is the only choice for progressives.
Anyone on the left just needs to read is positions and know he is the candidate the Democratic Party needs to put forward against whatever clown the Rethugs present.
Bernie Sanders Official Website
I don't use twitter but love this hashtag.
#feelthebern
ABE
And he is a great choice.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 247 of 1639 (765813)
08-06-2015 10:05 AM
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08-06-2015 8:01 AM


Re: Donald Trump is a Democratic plot to make GOP look stupid
So you got nothing.
Do you admit gun control measures were enacted in the 1960's?
Gun control act of 1968, look it up.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 256 of 1639 (765867)
08-07-2015 9:05 AM
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08-07-2015 8:29 AM


Re: Donald Trump is a Democratic plot to make GOP look stupid
WOW!! Astounding.
You think laws pass instantly?
Do you know the date in 1963 Kennedy was assassinated?
Ever hear of Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 297 of 1639 (769500)
09-21-2015 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 296 by Asgara
09-21-2015 6:37 PM


Re: Another one bites the dust...
As a fellow Wisconsinite I know of which you speak.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 451 of 1639 (775627)
01-03-2016 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 450 by Hyroglyphx
01-03-2016 2:12 AM


Re: Trump vs. Clinton polls (and other current polls Jan 2016)
Strong believer in the Constitution I see.
Amazing how so many people express the idea that they do not think the ballot box is a legitimate way to express their political will. It is amazing that violence has so many advocates.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 473 of 1639 (776290)
01-11-2016 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 466 by Faith
01-10-2016 7:42 PM


Re: Bundy Bozos and government sharks
1) Bundy is a liar.
quote:
The Cliven Bundy family owns a 160-acre farm southwest of Bunkerville, which serves as headquarters and base property for the family's ranching operation on nearby public domain lands. The farm property was purchased by the Bundy family in 1948, after they moved from Bundyville, Arizona, and Bundy has claimed that he inherited "pre-emptive grazing rights" on public domain land because some of his maternal grandmother's ancestors had kept cattle in the Virgin Valley beginning in 1877
Bundy standoff - Wikipedia
There is no such thing as pre-emptive grazing rights.
2) Who do people think were the first owners of the land under US jurisdiction? How did this land end up part of the USA? Hint. What happened in 1848?
Ok you probably can't do the research. Mexico ceded those lands to the US under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.
Why should the Bundy have more of a claim to this land than anyone else?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 509 of 1639 (776794)
01-20-2016 9:02 AM
Reply to: Message 508 by Dr Adequate
01-20-2016 2:59 AM


Re: Palin Endorses Trump
Worse than a drunken brawl. Beating up a woman who seemingly is his gf. What a piece of shit. Then his lawyer plays the suffering veteran card.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 593 of 1639 (778126)
02-17-2016 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 592 by coffee_addict
02-16-2016 11:24 PM


How is Hillary Clinton any more electable than Bernie Sanders? You assert. How about backing up the assertions that he is not electable.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 601 of 1639 (778140)
02-17-2016 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 599 by coffee_addict
02-17-2016 1:42 PM


They are going to paint Clinton as a socialist too. They are going to make unrealistic attacks against any Democratic candidate. Hillary Clinton also has issues that certain people think makes her unelectable.
The rest of your post doesn't deal with.my question at all. Basically, seems you have nothing except your own biases. Both candidates are highly electable. I support Sanders right now, but if Clinton wins the nomination, I will be ready to support her with my time, energy and money. I expect ALL Clinton supporters to do the same if Sanders gets the nomination.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 605 of 1639 (778144)
02-17-2016 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 602 by coffee_addict
02-17-2016 2:40 PM


In other words all you have are your perceptions and biases.
Speaking as an atheist gay person, I will never support an atheist gay candidate in the primaries
Well people like you are why nothing seems to change. I vote for the person I think is the best person for the job.
You still have not addressed why he is unelectable but Clinton is. Do you think Clinton is not going to be attacked by the right?
So if Sanders wins primary, will you support him?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 606 of 1639 (778145)
02-17-2016 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 604 by coffee_addict
02-17-2016 3:05 PM


Assertion after assertion. Can you provide some evidence showing polls are skewed? Or is is this all part of your crystal ball?
We are talking about polling here not caucus goers. If your assertions were correct than all the candidates have been hard left and hard right, since they are the only ones that vote in primaries. Ergo, we have never had a centrist President.
Alas, historical results shows that your whole premise is faulty.
But those of us who participate in the primaries should think farther ahead.
Yes, we should. It is insulting that you think you know what we are all thinking. We are thinking beyond the primaries and thinking beyond the 2016 election. We are motivating and mobilizing millions of disaffected voters that are tired of the same old same old. That same old, same old comes from the Democratic Party as well as the Rethugs. Just look at who is in charge of the DNC, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, as much a corporate stoogie as you can get. She actively fights progressive candidates and causes.
Again I ask, will you support Bernie Sanders if he is the Democratic candidate?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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