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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Why does the marital status of the parents have to do with anything if the mother is a US citizen?
Do you think the gender of the US citizen is relevant?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Again Cat Sci shows that right wing arguments are not based on truth or reality. A hint of racism but no truth.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
It does if the mother is not a US citizen and the child was born out of wedlock. I assume this provision is so that the children produced by US GI's overseas are not given citizenship.
quote:United States nationality law - Wikipedia CS is deep into the Kool-aid. For in order even if he President Obama was born out of wedlock in a foreign country he would still be a citizen. Alas, evidence shows he was born in the USA and evidence shows that his parents were legally married in the USA at the time of the Presidents birth. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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I was a teenager in the 1960's. When both Kennedy brothers and Martin Luther King were shot, there was practically no mention of any type of gun control, from the Democrats OR the news madia.
Bullshit. Ever wonder why you cannot buy a rifle mail order as Oswald did? You might want to research stuff before you display your total lack of knowledge. Is your ignorance willful and on purpose?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Bernie is the only choice for progressives.
Anyone on the left just needs to read is positions and know he is the candidate the Democratic Party needs to put forward against whatever clown the Rethugs present.Bernie Sanders Official Website I don't use twitter but love this hashtag.#feelthebern ABEAnd he is a great choice. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
So you got nothing.
Do you admit gun control measures were enacted in the 1960's?Gun control act of 1968, look it up. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
WOW!! Astounding.
You think laws pass instantly? Do you know the date in 1963 Kennedy was assassinated? Ever hear of Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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As a fellow Wisconsinite I know of which you speak.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Strong believer in the Constitution I see.
Amazing how so many people express the idea that they do not think the ballot box is a legitimate way to express their political will. It is amazing that violence has so many advocates.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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1) Bundy is a liar.
quote:Bundy standoff - Wikipedia There is no such thing as pre-emptive grazing rights. 2) Who do people think were the first owners of the land under US jurisdiction? How did this land end up part of the USA? Hint. What happened in 1848?Ok you probably can't do the research. Mexico ceded those lands to the US under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Why should the Bundy have more of a claim to this land than anyone else? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Worse than a drunken brawl. Beating up a woman who seemingly is his gf. What a piece of shit. Then his lawyer plays the suffering veteran card.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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How is Hillary Clinton any more electable than Bernie Sanders? You assert. How about backing up the assertions that he is not electable.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
They are going to paint Clinton as a socialist too. They are going to make unrealistic attacks against any Democratic candidate. Hillary Clinton also has issues that certain people think makes her unelectable.
The rest of your post doesn't deal with.my question at all. Basically, seems you have nothing except your own biases. Both candidates are highly electable. I support Sanders right now, but if Clinton wins the nomination, I will be ready to support her with my time, energy and money. I expect ALL Clinton supporters to do the same if Sanders gets the nomination.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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In other words all you have are your perceptions and biases.
Speaking as an atheist gay person, I will never support an atheist gay candidate in the primaries
Well people like you are why nothing seems to change. I vote for the person I think is the best person for the job. You still have not addressed why he is unelectable but Clinton is. Do you think Clinton is not going to be attacked by the right? So if Sanders wins primary, will you support him?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Assertion after assertion. Can you provide some evidence showing polls are skewed? Or is is this all part of your crystal ball?
We are talking about polling here not caucus goers. If your assertions were correct than all the candidates have been hard left and hard right, since they are the only ones that vote in primaries. Ergo, we have never had a centrist President. Alas, historical results shows that your whole premise is faulty.
But those of us who participate in the primaries should think farther ahead.
Yes, we should. It is insulting that you think you know what we are all thinking. We are thinking beyond the primaries and thinking beyond the 2016 election. We are motivating and mobilizing millions of disaffected voters that are tired of the same old same old. That same old, same old comes from the Democratic Party as well as the Rethugs. Just look at who is in charge of the DNC, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, as much a corporate stoogie as you can get. She actively fights progressive candidates and causes. Again I ask, will you support Bernie Sanders if he is the Democratic candidate?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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