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subbie Member (Idle past 1282 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
The last Republican to win the presidency without a Nixon or a Bush on the ticket was Herbert Hoover, 1929-1933.
Edited by subbie, : SubtitleRidicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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subbie Member (Idle past 1282 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I personally think it should be challenged and go through that supreme court just to put that issue to bed. One potential problem with this is that a compelling argument can be made that unless and until he's actually elected, there's nothing for the Supreme Court to decide. The Supremes are constitutionally limited in that they can only decide "Cases and Controversies." They have interpreted this to mean that they cannot answer hypothetical questions, there must be an actual dispute for them to resolve before they can hear a case. If Cruz is never elected, there's nothing for them to decide.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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subbie Member (Idle past 1282 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
A big business egotist who knows absolutely nothing about government and who's platform is apparently going to be based on blatant lies designed to pander to right wing idiots? She'll fit right in with the rest of the Tea Baggers.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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subbie Member (Idle past 1282 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes: ...SCOTUS has always ... I'm no longer willing to say SCOTUS "has always" or "will never" anything after seeing some of the crap Scalia and Thomas have pulled.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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NoNukes writes: A challenge to putting Cruz on a state's presidential ballot based on eligibility, if raised by an opponent would be enough to make a controversy. There is no real need to wait until he is elected. Possibly. I did say that an argument could be made, not that the courts would necessarily buy it. It's quite possible your position could prevail. Ultimately, there's no way to know for sure unless and until the Supremes take the case and decide it.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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subbie Member (Idle past 1282 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Makes sense to me.
Of course, there's a fair amount of Constitutional jurisprudence that doesn't make any sense, so whether it makes sense or not isn't necessarily a great predictor of what the Court will do.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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subbie Member (Idle past 1282 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
NoNukes writes: On the other hand, some parts are merely moot but not overruled, ... RAZD writes: Once again it seems to me that there needs to be some system of "cleaning house" to specifically revoke laws and parts of laws that are no longer relevant, perhaps a 25 year review? Dred Scott was not a law, but a Supreme Court decision. And there are very, VERY good reasons why we don't want those to have a sunset provision. Can you imagine how insane presidential elections would be if the continued validity of Brown v. Board of Education, Marbury v. Madison, Gideon v. Wainwright, Miranda v. Arizona, Mapp v. Ohio were in issue? I can understand the impetus behind sunset provisions generally, but the idea of applying them to matters of fundamental rights scares the hell out of me.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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