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Message 886 of 1639 (778546)
02-21-2016 9:19 AM
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Re: Moderator Ruling
...one would expect more than just one person to express an interest (Anglagard above in Message 881).
Hours slaving over a hot internet. All my hard work has come to naught. I am feeling so low.
Nobody knows the trouble I seen.
Nobody knows my sorrow.

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Message 887 of 1639 (778547)
02-21-2016 9:52 AM


Doonesbury nails it.
Click to embiggen.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 888 of 1639 (778548)
02-21-2016 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 877 by Faith
02-20-2016 11:27 PM


faith writes:
Trump's motives are his own busuiness, not yours
Maybe Trump should hire you to write slogans, because that's a beautifully succinct and honest summary of the man. Probably should disqualify him from running anything other than his own business though.
I also don't see what's so horrible about the story about the pig's blood on the bullets.
Empathy Faith. Let's try empathy.
If Obama made Christian cake shop owners bake cakes for gay weddings and this is terrible in your eyes.
If Obama makes Christian pharmacists sell the morning after pill, and this is awful.
If Obama asks people to contribute to a common pool for mutual healthcare benefits and some of the healthcare being paid for is contraceptive in nature, and this requires hearings, sessions and hours and hours of analysis on Fox about how immoral it all is....
Can you imagine why forcing Jews to cook bacon is a problem?
Can you imagine why drowning Jews in pigs blood is more hateful and despicable than drowning them in water?
Can you imagine that Catholics dipping their torture instruments in pig's blood and/or menstrual blood before torturing Jews might serve as yet more evidence for their evil character?

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Message 889 of 1639 (778555)
02-21-2016 12:17 PM
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02-21-2016 10:01 AM


What would Jesus do?
Faith writes:
I also don't see what's so horrible about the story about the pig's blood on the bullets.
Modulous writes:
Can you imagine why forcing Jews to cook bacon is a problem?
Trump's story was about an execution 49 out of 50 prisoners of war in cold blood and sending the last prisoner home to tell the tale. That dwarfs the issues around Jews cooking bacon. If that were not bad enough, there was the added, and pointless, and likely even counter productive acts to denigrate their religion while doing so.
In light of Admin's request to hew closer tot the topic, I'd recommend staying a bit closer to the topic and not attempting futile appeals to empathy to people who don't GAS. Killing POWs is not an act of war and is not simply the opposite of coddling our enemies. It is a massacre. The pigs blood was just an added Abu Ghraib style poke in the eye piled onto an abomination.
Trumps victory in SC suggest to me that his talk on the topic, hasn't hurt his appeal to his base. The only good sign here is that Trump did not seem to gain any additional support based on the field being reduced. In fact, Trump did get a slightly smaller percentage while his nearest contenders saw huge increases. That trend is not good for Trump. Let's see where those Bush votes go now.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

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History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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Message 890 of 1639 (778556)
02-21-2016 12:18 PM
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02-21-2016 9:52 AM


As I said, the reason Trump has so much support has nothing whatever to do with his religion or his lifestyle, it's about his bold support for issues conservatives agree with.
And of course this whole "Christian" complaint about him is completely trumped up by the left because there has never been a candidate who would qualify on those grounds.
I recall how we were misled by GWBush who claimed to be a Christian and then followed policies in office Christians objected to.
Trump could turn out to be a disaster in office too, and I for one still have to spend time studying his record on issues before I decide whether I'll vote for him, assuming he ends up the Republican candidate. But the point is that it's what they do on policies we care about that matters to us.

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Message 891 of 1639 (778557)
02-21-2016 12:22 PM
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02-21-2016 12:17 PM


Re: What would Jesus do?
Lefties have the most amazing inability to tell the difference between criminals and innocents. The Muslims were going to be executed. Scaring them with pig's blood wasn't going to matter to the ones who were executed, but scaring one who would go home to tell the story was apparently very effective as a way of dealing with our enemies.
If you can concoct a situation in which fifty Jews did something deserving execution, having them fry bacon might be defensible as a way of punishing them. Otherwise you are talking about innocent Jews and your comparison is the usual leftist moral equivalence dementia.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 892 of 1639 (778558)
02-21-2016 12:36 PM
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02-21-2016 10:01 AM


More brain-dead leftist moral equivalence
Another terrific example of brain-warped leftist moral equivalence.
Empathy Faith. Let's try empathy.
If Obama made Christian cake shop owners bake cakes for gay weddings and this is terrible in your eyes.
What IS the matter with you people? Christians won't do it, and they aren't being executed as enemies of the state. They wouldn't do it even then because they won't dishonor God. You can't scare them. They'll die praying for you.
If Obama makes Christian pharmacists sell the morning after pill, and this is awful.
But of course it is. The Christians in question are law-abiding American citizens, not enemies of the state, which difference of course is beyond your powers of recognition, and as citizens deserve protection of our beliefs, which we always used to have. We no longer have it because the country has gone pagan. But we won't follow the pagan laws, we'll take the punishment instead and pray for you in the process.
If Obama asks people to contribute to a common pool for mutual healthcare benefits and some of the healthcare being paid for is contraceptive in nature, and this requires hearings, sessions and hours and hours of analysis on Fox about how immoral it all is....
Can you imagine why forcing Jews to cook bacon is a problem?
Forcing law-abiding Jewish citizens to do so would be a problem, but any such treatment of enemies shouldn't be. Can you tell the difference? This person killed a bunch of Americans because they aren't Muslims... this person lives a morally upright American life. Can you tell the difference?
Can you imagine why drowning Jews in pigs blood is more hateful and despicable than drowning them in water?
See above.

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Message 893 of 1639 (778559)
02-21-2016 12:39 PM
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02-21-2016 8:29 AM


Re: Moderator Ruling
Sorry about being off topic. I was working backwards through the posts addressed to me. Time to get off this thread.

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NoNukes
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Message 894 of 1639 (778560)
02-21-2016 12:40 PM
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02-21-2016 12:22 PM


Re: What would Jesus do?
The Muslims were going to be executed
Yes, Faith. That is the major problem. Why were prisoners being executed?
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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Message 895 of 1639 (778561)
02-21-2016 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 882 by AZPaul3
02-21-2016 6:36 AM


Re: No Bush
If there was one candidate in the whole Republican lineup I'd NEVER vote for it is Jeb Bush. Glad if he's gone.

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Message 896 of 1639 (778562)
02-21-2016 12:42 PM
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02-21-2016 12:40 PM


Re: What would Jesus do?
The story is about the execution of enemies. If you believe they shouldn't have been executed, fine, but the story is about the execution of enemies and that's how I dealt with it.
And Percy wants us back on topic.
P.S. "What would Jesus do?" He'd support the death penalty for murderers as the Mosaic Law commands.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 897 of 1639 (778563)
02-21-2016 12:51 PM
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02-21-2016 12:42 PM


Re: What would Jesus do?
P.S. "What would Jesus do?" He'd support the death penalty for murderers as the Mosaic Law commands.
And he'd support the Mosaic death penalty for adulterers, as he so notably did in John 8:2-11.
... oh, wait.

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Message 898 of 1639 (778564)
02-21-2016 12:55 PM
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02-21-2016 12:51 PM


Re: What would Jesus do?
And YOU have a problem telling the difference between the applicability of the Mosaic Law to different offenses, which Jesus never rescinded for murder but did for adultery. Gosh you brilliant lefties have SO much trouble with simple IQ-test-type discrimination.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 899 of 1639 (778565)
02-21-2016 12:55 PM
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02-21-2016 12:36 PM


Re: More brain-dead leftist moral equivalence
Forcing law-abiding Jewish citizens to do so would be a problem, but any such treatment of enemies shouldn't be.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven.

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Message 900 of 1639 (778566)
02-21-2016 12:58 PM
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02-21-2016 12:55 PM


Re: More brain-dead leftist moral equivalence
OK, one last off-topic response. Again a failure of leftist discrimination, since Jesus never addressed heads of state on matters of criminal offense to the state. In the quoted statement He was addressing individual believers.
The enemies in question are our personal enemies, not enemies of the state. But of course we may still have compassion on those, which would require us to visit them and give them the gospel before they die and pray for them just as we should our personal enemies.
Are leftist brains just wired wrong or what?

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