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Author Topic:   Climate Change Denier comes in from the cold: SCIENCE!!!
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Message 11 of 824 (749508)
02-05-2015 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by marc9000
02-03-2015 9:24 PM


marc9000 writes:

What is it that global warming believers want?


Reality accepters want to outlive the Apocalypse.

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Message 44 of 824 (750029)
02-11-2015 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by frako
02-11-2015 6:11 AM


frako writes:

... my car is a bit older....


Are you still driving that 1980 Yugo?

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Message 158 of 824 (766610)
08-19-2015 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by ICANT
08-19-2015 9:38 AM


Re: Change
ICANT writes:

As of May 2015 the Polar ice is 5% larger than the 1979 size was.

If the earth is getting so much warmer due to our emissions into the air how is that possible?


What do short-term fluctuations have to do with long-term trends?

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Message 162 of 824 (766624)
08-19-2015 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by ICANT
08-19-2015 4:56 PM


Re: Change
ICANT writes:

But you only have data from 1979 until the present to work with. So what long term fluctuations are you talking about?


There is a long-term trend in temperatures, which you don't seem to deny. There's no reason why the ice caps can't get bigger in the short term even if the temperature is rising in the long term.

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Message 209 of 824 (769830)
09-25-2015 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 206 by foreveryoung
09-25-2015 10:46 AM


Re: Greenhouse effect
foreveryoung writes:

Nevertheless, there is no coherent thermodynamic definition of the greenhouse effect.


Maybe you should define what you mean by a "coherent thermodynamic definition".

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Message 368 of 824 (799747)
02-14-2017 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 367 by RAZD
02-14-2017 12:22 PM


Re: Finite fossil fuel
RAZD writes:

The initial installation cost is irrelevant in the long run, because they are virtually maintenance free so operating costs are virtually nil.


A thought occurred to me the other day: If your solar panels are installed on the roof, what happens when your shingles need to be replaced?

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Message 402 of 824 (822918)
11-03-2017 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 399 by Phat
11-02-2017 3:02 PM


Re: Climate Is Warming And Humans Are The Cause
Phat writes:

This just in:
Massive Government Report Says Climate Is Warming And Humans Are The Cause

Comments?


It's always nice to have a massive government report to confirm the obvious.

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Message 405 of 824 (822921)
11-03-2017 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 403 by NoNukes
11-03-2017 12:33 PM


Re: Climate Is Warming And Humans Are The Cause
NoNukes writes:

Absent the science, and the government report is simply a report of the consensus among scientists, I would suggest that the fact that humans are the driver of global client change is not obvious.


Absent the science, it isn't obvious that the world is round. If the government figures it out, we'd better stop the presses.

But the science isn't absent; we've known about it for a long time.


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Message 408 of 824 (823024)
11-05-2017 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 406 by NoNukes
11-03-2017 11:08 PM


Re: Climate Is Warming And Humans Are The Cause
NoNukes writes:

So if obvious means, 'after a zillion scientists analyzed the situation and then published their results in a peer-reviewed process'....


Well, that's what happened. It happened a while ago already and the pile is still getting bigger. So yes, it is @#$%ing obvious and we didn't need the government to confirm the obvious.

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Message 438 of 824 (823580)
11-13-2017 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 431 by NoNukes
11-11-2017 5:18 PM


Re: The REAL point is ...
NoNukes writes:

I am taking issue with the claim that the relative size of the human contribution is of no importance. That's simply incorrect.


I think we'd be better off if we had never figured out that the globe was warming. We could be reducing our use of fossil fuels because they pollute the air we breathe.

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Message 464 of 824 (830289)
03-26-2018 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 459 by Faith
03-26-2018 10:11 AM


Re: Climate Science Special Report
Faith writes:

And bring back the God of the Bible.


The God of the Bible was big on meat. Remember how He rejected Cain's veggie offering? Remember the Tabernacle and its accessories? The altar was a barbecue, not a salad bar.

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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Message 468 of 824 (830340)
03-27-2018 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 466 by Faith
03-26-2018 2:25 PM


Re: Climate Science Special Report
Faith writes:

God told Noah after the Flood to eat meats so something must have changed between then and now to make meat an undesirable food. Message 403


That's always the way it is with you, isn't it? If reality doesn't fit the Bible, reality must be wrong.

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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Message 494 of 824 (839906)
09-18-2018 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 493 by Diomedes
09-18-2018 9:30 AM


Re: Anyone still doubt climate change?
Diomedes writes:

The summers are much hotter and more humid and fall starts later. Not necessarily the worst thing if you live there I guess.


In Saskatchewan we had one warm evening this past summer. The nights have been downright cold. No thunderstorms to speak of. Our climate seems to be getting less extreme than it used to be.

I'm not a climate-change denier by any means but I don't believe in blaming every car accident on climate change. Sometimes a car just runs into a bandwagon.


And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 498 of 824 (839967)
09-20-2018 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 497 by Faith
09-20-2018 12:47 AM


Re: Anyone still doubt climate change?
Faith writes:

I'm sure if some great number of us asked God to spare us, He would....


That isn't how He works though, is it? He picks one person, such as Noah or Abraham, and spares one family from the general slaughter. Abraham personally advocated for the Sodomites and Gomorrites but Noah didn't even bother to do that. To be fair, he was busy building the ark, while Abraham only had to check the fire extinguishers....

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 508 of 824 (841671)
10-18-2018 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 507 by Stile
10-18-2018 10:12 AM


Re: A Sort Of Climate Change Related Question
I think you have it about right. According to the Lowes website, windstorm sheathing comes in 10-foot lengths. What they illustrate isn't actually plywood; it's chipboard, which is what is normally used for sheathing (up here out of hurricane-range, anyway).

As for "additional hardware", you can get aluminum clips with an H cross-section to reinforce joints that don't have blocking behind them.


And our geese will blot out the sun.

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