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Author Topic:   Climate Change Denier comes in from the cold: SCIENCE!!!
Theodoric
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Message 57 of 971 (750295)
02-13-2015 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by marc9000
02-12-2015 7:37 PM


You have no evidence of data being "fudged". Just assertions that it was, that have been debunked.
Repeating assertions over and over does not change them from false to true. All it does is prove delusion.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 59 of 971 (750297)
02-13-2015 9:00 AM
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02-12-2015 7:43 PM


If you can't imagine any corruption being involved in ANY government action to combat global warming, I can't help you.
If you can't imagine energy companies corrupting politicians not to do anything to combat global climate change, I can't help you.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 71 of 971 (750396)
02-15-2015 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by frako
02-15-2015 8:33 AM


quote:
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
John Kenneth Galbraith

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 76 of 971 (750447)
02-15-2015 10:15 PM
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02-15-2015 9:08 PM


So you agree with Galbraith?
Interesting. But not surprising. Most conservatives seem to be proud of their selfishness.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 109 of 971 (750718)
02-21-2015 9:23 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by marc9000
02-20-2015 8:42 PM


Show your figures.

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 114 of 971 (750775)
02-22-2015 12:30 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by jar
02-21-2015 11:28 AM


Re: Personal lifestyle changes
A dishwasher is actually more energy efficient than hand washing.
Built-In Dishwashers Versus Hand-Washing: Which Is Greener?
Dishwashers | ENERGY STAR

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 213 of 971 (769837)
09-25-2015 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by foreveryoung
09-25-2015 12:14 PM


You do realize that this is an open forum, don't you. Grow a pair and address the answers that were given to you. If you cannot or will not then move along

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 236 of 971 (770523)
10-07-2015 9:22 AM
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10-07-2015 4:13 AM


That's ok. I will get my science from actual scientists that use their actual names.
Oh I see KevinK claims to be an optical and electrical engineer. Hardly an expert on climate science. There is a bit more to the subject than optics.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Message 251 of 971 (775509)
01-02-2016 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 249 by petrophysics1
01-02-2016 8:00 AM


Re: Funny Weather We're Having
The amazing thing is that you would even posit that anyone that understands the science of AGW would think such a thing. I think you just built a giant of a strawman.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

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Message 294 of 971 (788976)
08-08-2016 5:21 PM


The scary thing is that foreverclueless thinks he has made fantastic points and had amazing responses to the information that destroyed his world class arguments.
Now it is about time for petrophysics dude to post something inane and totally nonscientific.

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

  
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Message 338 of 971 (799615)
02-11-2017 10:24 PM
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02-11-2017 9:38 PM


A little basic science might help.
What is the greenhouse effect? | HowStuffWorks
This argument of yours is a loser.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 342 of 971 (799620)
02-11-2017 11:12 PM
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02-11-2017 11:02 PM


Please enlighten us on what is incorrect.

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"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 357 of 971 (799654)
02-12-2017 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 343 by foreveryoung
02-11-2017 11:18 PM


You did not address what I asked.
Show me the information in the article that is wrong. The specific information. You are making blanket assertions but are not addressing the particular article I posted.
This should be simple. Quote part of the article and refute the point they are making.
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

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Message 366 of 971 (799741)
02-14-2017 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 365 by Diomedes
02-14-2017 11:07 AM


Re: Finite fossil fuel
2 is incorrect. Solar panels work great in northern areas. ND ranks tied for 17th in solar potential. Politics is the only thing holding it back.
quote:
While the Southwest region of the United States has some of the best solar resources in the world, almost all areas of the continental United States and Southern Canada have solar resources suitable for solar energy systems. For example, while frequently overcast and rainy Seattle is considered the worst place for solar in the United States (outside of Alaska), it still has a better solar resource potential than Germany which alone accounts for athird of the world's solar energy installations.
In addition, despite receiving less direct sunlight, northern states have the advantage of photovoltaic (PV) systems working more efficiently during cooler temperatures because heat lowers the efficiency at which the panels convert light to electricity. Northern states also have longer days in summer which can contribute to relatively more generation, which depending on when the power is needed, may offset shorter winter days.
Environmental & Energy Management Institute | School of Engineering & Applied Science | The George Washington University
4 is not as black and white as you make it. Industry and government has not given us reason to accept it. With the drive towards eliminating oversight and regulations nuclear is a tragedy waiting to happen.
The cost of nuclear is prohibitive.
Nuclear Power Cost | Union of Concerned Scientists

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 369 of 971 (799749)
02-14-2017 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 367 by RAZD
02-14-2017 12:22 PM


Re: Finite fossil fuel
Installation cost is relevant if your electricity costs are low. Installation for me would be about $25k, I use about $1300/year in electricity.
Financially it is a stupid move for me.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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