Climate Change Denier comes in from the cold: SCIENCE!!!

marc9000 writes: 1.2 million? Hmmm, do scientific papers from global warming activists disclose the government money they get to research their findings?

The scientific papers I have read and written all have an acknowledgement section that list people who have helped and funding sources. The grants usually have a grant number which is also listed in the acknowledgements and can often be looked up at the agency or organization website. I have never had a grant from the government, but I have been part of several research teams that applied for NSF grants.

Not disclosing the sources of your funding is deceptive and unethical and calls into question the integrety of your research. Dr. Soon's failure to disclose the source of his funding demonstrates a conflict of interest and shows that his research was blatently fraudulent.

I ran across this on the Skeptoid website.

The Simple Proof of Man-Made Global Warming

It provides a very nice description of measurements and observations that show how the sources of carbon in the atmosphere are determined.

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I'm not going to mention climate models, politics, predictions, economics, or how many scientists agree or disagree — any of the topics on which there is debate. I'm only going to share a few of the most solid basics, the results of absolute measurements, over which there is no debate. These are the things nobody disagrees with, but so few people understand. Despite its contentious topic, this episode is intended to be — and should be — completely non-controversial.

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The article also describes how measurements using spectrometry show that the greenhouse gases: CO2, methane, water vapor, nitrous oxide, and ozone are the primary sources of heat in the atmosphere and what percentage of each is responsible.

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Water vapor, which is the most prominent, defines the basic shape of the greenhouse spectrum. Most of the infrared radiation that escapes the Earth goes through a window left open by water vapor, which we call the infrared window.

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Spectroscopy is hard science. We don't have to model or predict. Simply by pointing our instruments at the sky, we can, right now, directly observe and identify the greenhouse gases, and measure exactly how much radiative energy the atmosphere is absorbing and keeping here on Earth. This direct, non-ambiguous spectroscopic reading is the "smoking gun" that proves the excess heat energy being trapped in our atmosphere is due to CO2. That excess CO2 is produced by humans burning fossil fuels.

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I couldn't see any obvious flaws in this article and it has a short list of references at the end.

Edited by Tanypteryx, : No reason given.

There is an uncanny resemblance to Trump in that image.

What, me worry?

And the color, and the head.

The biggest climate change could be to Europe if Greenland's melting glaciers disrupt the Gulf Stream that keeps Europe's climate moderate.

The biggest changes occurring right now appear to be warming in some arctic regions of 20-30 degrees. That warming is leading to the thawing of tundra and the release of massive amounts of methane, a more effective greenhouse gas than CO2.

An interesting consequence of this warming period is sea level rise from expansion of warmer water and from melting glaciers. We are living through a period of ocean transgression and can observe the patterns of erosion and deposition around the continents.

Our very own realtime Walther's Law Experiments.

Prediction made by mainstream "climate scientists" - Australia would never see snow again... Prediction was false

Prove it.

Prediction made by mainstream "climate scientists" - That large parts of Australia would be underwater... Prediction was false

Prove it.

Prediction made by mainstream "climate scientists" - That Australia's temperature would rise considerably... Prediction was false

Prove it.

Prediction made by mainstream "climate scientists" - That the world would end... Prediction was false

Prove it.

Meanwhile, the other experts have predicted that a cool period would begin last year - Australia has just had its coldest summer in living memory, snow fell in Mexico, Egypt, and other unusual parts of the world. Prediction was true

So what?

No wonder the mainstream refuses to debate such people...

You just made all this bullshit up.

Message 34

I'm about to prove that in the "Climate Denier" thread, won't you join me there? (if you sputter with rage and call me vulgar names, I probably won't respond though.)

You keep promising us a good time, but you don't seem to know what the word prove means. When you prove something, you have to offer proof and that takes objective evidence.

So far, all we see is you, sputtering with rage, how typical.

We can still mollify some projected disruptions or their severity to a significant degree if we drastically reduce greenhouse emissions before 2050.

29 years, that's plenty of time.

I'm not going to be around to collect but I'll bet ya $10 we don't make it.

You win! If the pandemic has shown us anything, it's that we will not do anything to save ourselves, especially if it means saving our "enemies" also.

Damn it, I could use $10, too!

The Northwest took away our summer. Bad move, we are used to it, they are not.

The high temps here have been no fun. We've broken lots of records, but that happens quite often in many places every day. We have lots of wildfire smoke here in the Willamette Valley since mid week, but nothing like last summer, when towns were burning up only a few miles from here.

I don't have AC in my lab, so I cool it down with fans in the morning, close it up and work until about 3:00 or 85F whichever comes 1st and then go home. I usually leave image files processing on the computer over night so I can stay busy, collecting subjects and shooting.

Many species of dragonflies have shortened flight seasons this year because of the heat. Lots of aquatic habitat has disappeared with the drought and heat.

I think we are really and truly fucked!

It's good to be old. Down here I try to keep the house cooled down to around 85 during the day and about 80 at night so I can sleep.

If you were young you wouldn't need sleep!

What we have had is an apparent collapse of the arthropod population here in the Valley of The Sun. I used to spray my apartment every 6 months or so. It was easy to keep on that schedule because the roaches and ants kept showing up as a reminder. That has stopped. I haven't sprayed in over 3 years and neither have the neighbors.

Roaches don't seem to be a problem around here, but little tiny ants invaded my bathroom last week. Terro ant bait does the trick. Targeted pesticides have less impact on beneficial insects.

In general, the public here in the US, is terrified of insects. They think there are a few hundred species and they are all pests. The only good bug is a dead one. It turns out that the terrestrial biosphere cannot function without them and it is collapsing world wide. Humans have finally developed some really, really effective pesticides that will kill everything and they are persistent in the environment.

Remember when you were a kid and when you went for a drive and the car windshield would be covered with splattered insects? Well, that doesn't happen any more and most people are happy about that.

A part of the collapse is that many insects are getting out of synch with their host plants so the larvae don't have the specific food source they need at the critical growth stage of their life cycles. This phenomena is being reported by ornithologists as well. The insect larvae that birds feed their nestlings have already pupated and become adults. Pollinators are getting out of synch with the blooming of the plants. Add in invasive species being spread around the planet with global trade (pest insects seem to be really good at colonizing new territory where the normal controls on population growth are nonexistent).

One of the more famous insects where we are seeing these effects is the Monarch butterfly, but it is happening to tens of thousands of other species that no one is paying attention to.

Climate change and other human activities are the cause of this insect apocalypse.

Humanity is plunging over a thousand mile high cliff, on fire with a nuclear bomb in our mouth.