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Message 60 of 521 (750298)
02-13-2015 9:02 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by frako
02-13-2015 8:50 AM


Testing
For about 20 or so years we had emissions testing here too. It helped get the worst of the old oil burners off the road and forced others to clean up by getting cars tuned etc. We have phased it out now that there are very few older cars left on the road and the new ones are so very much cleaner and stay that way with much less maintenance.

It was not worth the cost of running the testing centers under the new circumstances.

However, I just had a thought. Are we getting by without screening for polluting cars because of rules and testing done in so many other places that keep the on road fleet cleaner for us. Are we sort of being anti-vaxers?


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Message 195 of 521 (766725)
08-20-2015 5:46 PM


Hot Time in July
http://www.sciencedaily.com/...ases/2015/08/150820152817.htm

The July average temperature across global land and ocean surfaces was 1.46°F (0.81°C) above the 20th century average. As July is climatologically the warmest month for the year, this was also the all-time highest monthly temperature in the 1880-2015 record, at 61.86°F (16.61°C), surpassing the previous record set in 1998 by 0.14°F (0.08°C).

  
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Message 202 of 521 (766738)
08-20-2015 9:15 PM
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08-20-2015 6:13 PM


Greenhouse gases
Taq writes:

Are you denying that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

ICANT writes:

It has been defined as such by the powers that be who depend on GW grants for their livelihood.

And exactly how does your response answer Taq? You are saying that it is only a matter of biased definition and therefor it isn't actually?

Do you know what a "greenhouse" gas would be? Please give your definition of one.

And how does it not endangering public health or welfare make it any less of a greenhouse gas?

You might try to focus a bit.


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Message 205 of 521 (769788)
09-24-2015 11:15 PM
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09-24-2015 10:52 PM


Greenhouse effect
Why would you have to ask this? If you don't know then you don't know enough to discuss climate science and I think you have been.

Thermodynamics says that if more heat flows into a system than flows out the temperature will rise. Easy and obvious, no?

Carbon dioxide is more transparent to visible light frequencies than it is to infrared frequencies. Simple enough.

So if energy flows in as visible light and is converted to IR more energy will be coming in than leaving.

Visible light striking things is converted to IR.

So what do you have to conclude?


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Message 210 of 521 (769833)
09-25-2015 12:09 PM
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09-25-2015 10:46 AM


Re: Greenhouse effect
And what is wrong with what I gave you as a definition? As well, which of the above facts to you disagree with?

The foundation is:
1. CO2 is a 'greenhouse' gas -- that is, it tends to trap heat in the form of IR radiation.
2. We humans have been releasing large amounts of CO2.

Those are simple, clear facts. Do you disagree?

And slightly, but only slightly, less simply the amounts of CO2 that we have been freeing are large enough to affect the heat balance of the earth in the direction of warming. This too is a fact. So there is man made global warming. How much precisely you can now argue about with good math.

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Message 212 of 521 (769836)
09-25-2015 12:25 PM
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09-25-2015 12:14 PM


So?
What difference does it make who wrote something? If NoNukes agrees and copies what others have written will that make a difference to you?
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