Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)

Hello, ScottRP. Welcome to EvC.As you can probably tell the membership here tends toward the skeptical side. Even the spiritualist and religionist among us carry a good dose of skepticism into threads like this one. But, do stay with us, pull up a seat and explore with us.First, I do like that artist’s drawing. Vividly imaginative, colorful and well rendered. I hadn’t seen that before. Do you have any information on the artist? Maybe some other works he/she has done?The photo is, well, suspect. Until you can provide some additional information I’ll see this as yet another of those optical artifacts with which we are all very familiar. The experienced photographers tell us these are often artifacts manifested from lens, light, angle and reflection. Very common, and as you have in yours, quite colorful. Even pretty.Where did you get this image? What is the history behind the photo? Knowing that such things happen in photos very frequently, what brings you to say this is not one of those common artifacts? Of course, the more details that you can provide and that we can verify the better.Please forgive Theodoric. He’s probably right (he usually is) but until we all get to know each other better what say we let that one post slide for now.Again, ScottRP, welcome to EvC.

We have a bit of an issue here at EvC with message subtitles. No one seems to want to change one. A thread can go hundreds of messages with the same subtitle, though, of course, the topic has crept well beyond what the subtitle would indicate.I try to remedy this when I remember to do so. The subtitles I create can be, well, creative. Others would term them off-the-wall. Still others wouldn't be so kind.Yes, I understand your reference but I think "Chariots of Fire" is rather apropos. It has that twist to it. Regardless.So, any info on my questions?

There was an outside chance. Admittedly a minuscule outside chance but still one could hope.Alas, you were right. Again.

ScottRP.Ulysses Robert Poe was a student at Harvard Law School around the turn of the century. He was known as one of the most persuasive orators ever. In his third year he was invited to debate in the famed Oxford Union. Don’t hold me to it but I recall the year being 1906. The Union’s debates, even today, are usually the top intellectual displays of world class debating talent. For a third-year law student to be invited to take a side was an unprecedented honor for Poe.In an Oxford Union debate there is a proposition put forth and the invited speakers, usually only two, speak in turn either for or against the proposition. After the allotted time has expired the members of the Union vote by filing out of the debate hall through one of two doors, one signifying a win for the proponent for the proposition, the other door for a win for the opponent of the proposition. Poe’s astonishing achievement was that, even to this day, he is the only advocate who so moved the membership that every member of the Oxford Union filed through his door.When he graduated from Harvard he was invited back to the Oxford Union for another debate. Unfortunately, on his way to the debate hall a horse spooked knocking Poe to the ground giving him a kick in the head. He thought he was fine. His escorts brushed him off and, at his insistence, proceeded with him to the hall.All Poe could manage in his debate were one-line statements many of which bore only slight, if any, resemblance to the proposition being debated. The debate was a disaster for Poe who never fully recovered his former skills.What ThinAirDesigns is alluding to is your style of answering what should be more verbose replies to the questions put to you with one-liners, no details and no justification.What he is saying is that it is just likeU.R. Poe.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : Damn this was fun!Edited by AZPaul3, : kleenup

Thank you.Unfortunately it did not have either of the desired affects. But it was fun.

ahem ... Yes, well, that may very well be the case.

Good grief! Hilarious.What's next? An article in Wiki^{[citation needed]}?

So, you're saying god is a tapeworm? Fascinating. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

And yet you insist the you, in violation of scripture, can visually identify the Spirit of God, and that ,further, you can take pictures of it and post them on the internet.Something is not right here, Scott. Either you are wrong or the scripture is wrong.

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John 14:17. the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him

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NKJV Scholastic Commentary: Neither sees Him nor knows Him does not mean merely that the world is not able to visually identify the Holy Spirit because He is Spirit. Something more is meant: The Spirit of God is active in the world, but His acts go unnoticed by the world (see 1 Cor. 2:14).

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ScottRP, Message 165:
Not only is the world unable to visually identify the Spirit of God, His works go unnoticed as well.

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You must be wrong or are you telling us the Bible is wrong?And your own words back in message 165? Are you wrong now or were you wrong when you wrote that message?Somebody is wrong here, Scott. Either you or the Bible. Which is it?

That doesn't work here, Scott. You are not of the Bible. You are of the World.The World, which includes you, and in this instance is specifically you, is unable to visually identify the Holy Spirit and His acts. "the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him." So says your holy scripture.Is this wrong?Unless you are saying you are not of this world? Maybe Cat Sci is right. Are you djinn?Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

By what credentials?

Oh, I dispute what you say, alright.You think being a self-proclaimed expert gives you credibility? Not even close. Your pronouncement of expertise is self-aggrandizing and is based on nothing more than your own hot air. You have demonstrated that you have no such expertise. You are a fraud.I take that back. Maybe you're not a fraud. You're one of those lonely little people, aren't you. You're one of those lonely little people who can only grab at legitimacy through hyperbolic dreams of accomplishment. Your expertise seems the embellishment of some ephemeral aspiration that popped into one of your daydreams and got stuck on the peg your lost dignity fell from many years before. What is sad is I can hear you actually believing that your wishful wistful fantasies have miraculously come into existence. That leaves you as nothing more than a crawling little man with delusions of standing tall. Yes, as a matter of fact, I can. I have seen your type many times in the past. The internet seems to bring you unfulfilled wannabes out in droves. You possess all of the symptoms, follow all of the patterns, hide behind declarations of false citations when challenged and can never produce any kind of even the most cursory evidence except for the assertions of your own pretentious self-importance.One of these days I'm gonna stop hoping against hope and listen to the guy.
Theodoric was right. You're a loony.

That message hasn't changed since the last time I wasted my time looking at it.Do you know what it contains? It contains the embellishment of some ephemeral aspiration that popped into one of your daydreams and got stuck on the peg your lost dignity fell from many years before. Nothing more. Using my own world-renowned expertise I have put expertly selected pictures together. Notice the halo is round just like the ball and the logo. Note the similarity of detail within the three. This proves that Jesus is a Cubs fan.Kinda explains why they can't win a pennant.Edited by Admin, : Reduce image width.

Well, it's not as much fun as composing cruel missives to the idiot, but, I do take your point, M'lady. You may be right. If I can gather the strength of character and willpower I might give that a try.