Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)

What can you tell us about the circumstances surrounding the image and the taking of the photograph?

Apparently these artifacts are quite easily to 'capture' in photographs using cheap digital cameras. The sanity check (or perhaps just urinalysis) seems more appropriate for people who are seeing house-sized orbs with the naked eye.Beyond that, I'd suggest that searching for 'orb' and 'Ezekiel' together will turn up stuff more rapidly than you can tooth pull out of Scott, who seems particularly reticent about sharing these wonders.ABE:When I added Scott to the search terms, this link turned uphttp://www.sciencechatforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=27714 Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Which spiritual experiences did he mention? I understand that you are not saying that the orbs are demonic.

Yes, the Spirit of God is Biblical. But manifesting as a halo? That does not seem to be Biblical. The scriptures you posted certainly do not suggest any such thing. An internet search on the topic indicates that the shiny circle around people heads is just artistic license taken by some Christian artists.Perhaps your life's work is just a Quixotic quest. That would be cause me to be sad for you.

I thought we'd agreed that the chariots or orbs were not demonic. So under what criteria do you judge his other experiences to be demonic?

I agree with you that there is no halo mentioned at all. But it is not clear to me whether dove applies to the bodily shape. Like a dove might mean that the flight was dove-like.

I suppose I'm looking for a bit of detail. Could you point to one example and tell me that it is not Biblical?I'm not looking for a fight here. Just trying to follow your point.For example, his writing linked to in message 64 looks pretty much like testimony I've seen elsewhere. His other posts lack any particular detail at all. I'm looking to see what you consider demonic.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Okay. I think I understand what you meant.Are you saying this about claimed sightings of Jesus generally? It would seem so...Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

"The quote from Luke I gave specifically says BODILY SHAPE of a dove."I find some ambiguity in the words, but after reviewing a number of translations, I find that most of them seem to agree with you.

How about as a manifestation surrounding Jesus's entire body and not just his head?

Upon is not specific enough to produce the result you want. My shoes are upon my feet, and my close are upon my body. "Atop" or "Upon His head" might be more convincing.And in either event, no circular shape is even suggested. The verse says "bodily form"Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Accepting your reasoning, one could also argue that a disk is not God's own bodily form. According to you a disk is a spirit form. I know this because a circle is not Adam's bodily form. It seems that you want to read the verse sloppily when it serves your purpose, and more tightly when that serves your purpose.

Haven't we already seen the video from which the image was extracted? I don't think you need to worry about this question anymore.

Right. And one might also ask how you concluded that the photographer was 'spiritually discerning' without knowing anything about him. That's not a reasonable way to evaluate evidence.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

As a Christian, I accept that Ezekiel's Wheel has meaning even if I cannot discern it myself. In fact, I don't claim to understand the vision. But quite frankly, this postulating of yours is at least as speculative as everything else I've read on the topic, including the OP. Even the commentaries I've read on this subject are all over the map.If you find inspiration from the text, so be it. But the likelihood that you are anymore correct than the next guy seems to me to be very poor. I appreciate the sharing, but I'd suggest that your posturing about your own understanding is misplaced.