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Author Topic:   Evidence that the Great Unconformity did not Form Before the Strata above it
Dr Adequate
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Message 249 of 1939 (753758)
03-21-2015 9:51 PM
Reply to: Message 213 by Faith
03-21-2015 3:19 PM


Re: Erosion simply CANNOT explain the flat contact line
Perhaps this would be a good time to remind you that according to your own version of events, the top of the Kaibab Plateau (blue) was exposed by erosion.

It's no less flat than all the things you keep claiming can't be produced by erosion because they're too flat. (Many of which geologists don't claim were produced by erosion, but which are perfectly ordinary bedding planes, so you're using a bad argument to fight against a straw man.)


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Message 250 of 1939 (753759)
03-21-2015 9:54 PM


Let's look at some more things that aren't flat.

Large paleovalleys carved into the underlying Redwall Limestone developed through dissolution i.e. karstification, and likely were enlarged by west-flowing streams. --- Timons and Karlstrom (eds.), Grand Canyon Geology, Geological Society of America, 2012.

Sink holes, caverns, and solution cracks common in upper parts of the Redwall limestone are in places partly or entirely filled with red mudstone accumulated during deposition of the overlying Supai formation. --- E. D. McKee, U.S. Geological Survey, "The Redwall Limestone", Ninth Field Conference of the New Mexico Geological Society

The top of the Mississippian Redwall limestone in the Grand Canyon area was subject to extensive karstification during a period of about 30 million years from the late Meramacian to early Morrowan time. This hiatus has recently been shown to be much shorter, possibly only 5 million years, in the western Grand Canyon where tidal and deltaic channels draining westward toward the retreating sea are eroded into the Redwall surface. These channels have average depths of about 107 m (350 ft). --- T. Troutman, University of Texas at Austin, "Genesis, Paleoenvironment, and Paleogeomorphology of the Mississippian Redwall Limestone Paleokarst, Hualapai Indian Reservation, Grand Canyon Area", Cave Research Foundation Newsletter vol. 29 no. 1, 2001.

  
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Message 284 of 1939 (753821)
03-22-2015 3:16 PM
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03-22-2015 2:43 PM


So we'd be looking for something like this ...

Or this ...

Or this ...

Or this ...

Or this ...

Or the flat bits of this ...

Or this ...

Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.


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Message 352 of 1939 (753973)
03-23-2015 4:36 PM


So, here's the diagram from Faith's original post.

Faith, how flat is the Great Unconformity?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 439 of 1939 (754184)
03-24-2015 9:40 PM



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Message 442 of 1939 (754201)
03-25-2015 12:47 AM
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03-24-2015 9:44 PM


Faith, Meet Faith
That's beautiful. Now find us one that has a level flat surface.

Faith, meet Faith.

I'm not concerned about how table-top flat the surface is.

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Message 1387 of 1939 (756557)
04-22-2015 2:32 PM
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04-21-2015 10:20 AM


Clash Of Faiths, Part Six Jillion And Three
If I "wiggle" one way and then the other it's because you are trying to pin some kind of exactness on me that I DO NOT MEAN. I keep saying that and you continue to do it. I'm trying to be clear.

You're trying to be clear, but you DO NOT MEAN to be exact?

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Message 1900 of 1939 (762780)
07-15-2015 11:49 PM
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07-15-2015 8:19 AM


A Cutler Fan

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Message 1933 of 1939 (762988)
07-19-2015 4:22 AM
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07-19-2015 1:39 AM


Re: Faith Suspended 24 hours
When I was a creationist, I used to come into forums an be confronted with questions that were over my head, because I wasn't familiar enough with the subject matter. Initially, I was treated as you are here, but it subsided. Do you know why? Because I ignored the insults, AND did not insult in return. I ignored the arrogance, AND left my own hubris at home. I answered questions directly, and admitted when my stance was faulty. I took the time to read articles on BOTH sides of the fence.

Eventually, most of the people with whom I spoke came to respect me and my approach, even if they didn't agree with my position.

Yeah, but look what happened to you.


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