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Author Topic:   Evidence that the Great Unconformity did not Form Before the Strata above it
Tanypteryx
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Message 619 of 1939 (754639)
03-29-2015 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 614 by Faith
03-29-2015 1:14 PM


Re: Navajo Sandstone
Faith writes:
THAT sand formation won't be preserved in the rock record, but wet/plastic/viscous sand itself may form similar levels and crossbeds in the process of being deposited.
I am sure you must have evidence. Would you like to share it with us?

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Message 1218 of 1939 (756217)
04-16-2015 4:45 PM
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04-16-2015 3:41 PM


Faith writes:
as edge says, the sediments are deposited in transgressing seas.
I think you are misinterpreting what edge is saying. He is not saying that deposition only happens when the sea level is rising (transgressing). Deposition happens whenever the surface is covered by water and there is a source of depositional material.
Faith writes:
They'd flow around rocks, not deposit from above.
Most of the time, the depth increase when seas are transgressing would be extremely gradual, just as rising sea level is today. There would be little or no current resulting from transgression.
Faith writes:
Funny how OE theory has all these worldwide floods that come and go, instead of the one Flood that did it all at once.
Funny how YE explanations try to fit billions of years of erosion and deposition into 6000 years.
The evidence shows that the Colorado Plateau has been flooded and exposed many times over the last 2 billion years.
The layers that lay below the Great Unconformity were fractured and tilted and then eroded long before they were flooded and subsequently buried by thousands of feet of more layers.
Geology does not have any worldwide floods, but there have been many regional floods. These floods were extremely slow and often lasted for millions of years.
Faith, basically you are trying to account for all the geological evidence on the planet with 40 days of rainy weather. There are just too many unexplained details with that explanation.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Tanypteryx
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Message 1223 of 1939 (756227)
04-16-2015 6:57 PM
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04-16-2015 5:32 PM


Thanks. I see what you are saying.
the other critical point is that we develop laterally continuous deposits by transgressing and regressing of the oceans. Otherwise, you could not get the huge sheets of sediments covering areas the size of continents.
This may be a stupid question but, does this deposition of continuous sheets of material contribute to the rising sea level as it is happening by displacing water?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Tanypteryx
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Message 1238 of 1939 (756252)
04-17-2015 12:20 AM
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04-16-2015 11:48 PM


Faith writes:
All I did this time was say the Flood would have acted like a transgressing sea, a perfectly reasonable idea, and you are badgering me about details.
When you say things happen a certain way then there are some obvious consequence that we can expect. Every time someone tries to get some clarification you get huffy.
Why are you posting on this topic if you don't want to discuss the details? What is the point? Here we are 1236 posts into this thread and no details allowed.
That's what we are all interested in, the details. That is what is interesting about geology, the details. When you stand on the rim of the Grand Canyon the only thing that explains it are the details. The details are the fun part.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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