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Author Topic:   Evidence that the Great Unconformity did not Form Before the Strata above it
JonF
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Message 1447 of 1939 (756635)
04-24-2015 8:28 AM
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04-24-2015 6:52 AM


Re: draped sandstone continued
The separation or overhang as JonF says it really is, without offering evidence or reasoning,

I thought it was so obvious that none was necessary. But since it's you... you wrote:

showing that the layers are separated from each other, not laid neatly one on top of the other as you see in fresh deposition

Separation is defined as:

quote:
1. an act or instance of separating or the state of being separated.
2. a place, line, or point of parting.
3. a gap, hole, rent, or the like.
4. something that separates or divides.

"Separation" would mean gaps or something inserted between the layers (and the latter would be a layer in itself). I.e. layers floating in the air above each other. The layers are laid on top of each other, touching with no gaps. At the edge of the cut some layers were affected differently than others and formed overhangs. Neat or not, they are laid on top of each other, not separated.

Let's see your evidence and reasoning that they are "separated". I need a good laugh.


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Message 1495 of 1939 (756722)
04-25-2015 3:16 PM
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04-25-2015 9:09 AM


Re: Why the Circled Rock is Different
I placed blue lines

Er...

They seem to have a tinge of yellow. Maybe it's just me.


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Message 1526 of 1939 (756842)
04-28-2015 4:04 PM
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04-28-2015 3:04 PM


Re: Basic geology disproves creationism
His book is well worth a read. I did find one 14C erratum, which he acknowledged and may be fixed by now.
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Message 1528 of 1939 (756849)
04-29-2015 8:08 AM
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04-29-2015 7:38 AM


Re: Basic geology disproves creationism
What's wrong with our scenario?

Yours is far too vague. Details. When and how did the original rocks formed, when and how did they get eroded, When and how did did the get buried deep enough to form metamorphic rock, when and how did they get exposed to the surface, when and how did they get eroded again, when and how did they get buried deep enough to form metamorphic rock, again,and when and how did they get exposed again.

We have detailed and physically possible answers to all those questions, and as a bonus those answers fit with everything else we know.

You just blow smoke.


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Message 1554 of 1939 (757129)
05-03-2015 6:04 PM
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05-03-2015 3:56 PM


Re: Moderator Facilitation
Right. You don't interpret, you are infallible.
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Message 1663 of 1939 (757365)
05-07-2015 8:51 PM
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05-07-2015 8:00 PM


You actually wrote that? On purpose?

I'm speechless.


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Message 1666 of 1939 (757370)
05-07-2015 9:41 PM
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05-07-2015 9:09 PM


It just underscores your incredible ignorance of relevant processes. Large temperature changes, or addition or removal of material can change volume. Extreme pressure (which is applied "hydrostatically" or from all directions simultaneously can reduce volume in some cases. Stretching... not so much.
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Message 1709 of 1939 (757492)
05-09-2015 5:47 PM
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05-09-2015 4:47 PM


Re: sedimentation on slope
None of Steno's principles are absolute. For superposition, see the Lewis Overthrust.

Edited by JonF, : No reason given.


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Message 1742 of 1939 (757994)
05-18-2015 7:36 AM
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05-17-2015 9:24 PM


Re: NY roadcut pictures
They certainly make it clear that there are small overhangs between layers and no deep caves or floating layers.
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Message 1764 of 1939 (760853)
06-26-2015 9:11 AM
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06-25-2015 10:05 PM


Re: sedimentation on slope

I hope someone who DOES have a good intuitive sense of reality comes along and sets you straight

Ah, you finally admit you do not have a good sense of reality.

Nice to see you admit it at last.

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Message 1766 of 1939 (760860)
06-26-2015 10:41 AM
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06-26-2015 10:04 AM


Re: sedimentation on slope
It's preferable to unsupported claims from ignorant and incompetent people.

Not that I have any particular person in mind.


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Message 1791 of 1939 (761048)
06-27-2015 1:32 PM
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06-27-2015 12:23 PM


Re: sedimentation on slope
You have pretty much destroyed what was going to be a fun time with my family. I propose that YOU do the experiment and I'll do something else with my family.

Exactly whom do you think will be hurt by your choice to not perform the experiment?

You're looking a it wrong.

She is grasping at any straw to avoid doing the experiment and facing even the tiniest bit of reality.


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Message 1816 of 1939 (762127)
07-09-2015 8:00 AM
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07-08-2015 6:27 PM


Re: Images from the Experiment
I may have put it differently at different times but most of the time I said what I mean: sand won't deposit EVENLY on a slope to form a layer like the strata we know and love

Whatever you may have meant, you said many times that strata can only deposit horizontally.

Post that picture again and we'll re-evaluate it.

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Message 1843 of 1939 (762287)
07-10-2015 12:26 PM


Gosh all hemlock, pretty much even thickness throughout!
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Message 1868 of 1939 (762482)
07-12-2015 4:49 PM
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07-12-2015 4:12 PM


Yeah, not being allowed to repeat claims that you have personally debunked is just like Stalin.
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