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Author Topic:   Sinning for Others
Mal
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Message 13 of 43 (762145)
07-09-2015 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jon
03-20-2015 12:36 PM


First post >.<
Hi
I am a noob so please go easy on me if I misunderstand something or my English is not perfect.
I was confused by the first two sentences as one refers to a single item and the other to plural.
"Do you believe in unforgivable sin" and "what do you consider these sins (pl) to be"
We were told that there is only one unforgivable sin and that has been explained (blasphemy of the HS).
The next question I am confused about.
"If it meant saving the life of an innocent person, would you commit an unforgivable sin damning your soul to eternal torment?"
I am not sure under which circumstances this could happen.
If you save the life of an innocent person is that not a good thing that deserves a reward rather than a punishment?
Would it not be wrong to stand by and allow the innocent person to die, assuming you are capable of saving that person?
I am not sure which god would sentence someone to eternal torment for saving an innocent person.
I hope I have explained well enough.
Thank you.

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Mal
Junior Member (Idle past 3203 days)
Posts: 15
From: Stockholm
Joined: 07-09-2015


Message 18 of 43 (762194)
07-09-2015 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Phat
07-09-2015 11:12 AM


Re: First post >.<
Thank you for the welcome.
I think that what Jon meant was to ask if any one of us would...of their own free will...take on the sin of another (kinda like Jesus did) even if it meant we would perish as a result. I might be wrong, however.
That would be an interesting topic if that is what Jon meant. There may be some objections.
Hows Sweden, by the way?
The weather is not nice today.

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Mal
Junior Member (Idle past 3203 days)
Posts: 15
From: Stockholm
Joined: 07-09-2015


Message 19 of 43 (762196)
07-09-2015 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by New Cat's Eye
07-09-2015 12:43 PM


Re: First post >.<
What does blasphemy of the HS mean to you? Can you give an example of it?
Thank you for replying.
I would say it is as you have explained in another post. Making a false claim or speaking wrongly of the HS.
For example, claiming that God's (Jesus') power (HS) is of Satan (Matt 12:24).
Mark 3:28-29 (KJV)
Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

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Mal
Junior Member (Idle past 3203 days)
Posts: 15
From: Stockholm
Joined: 07-09-2015


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Message 21 of 43 (762205)
07-09-2015 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by New Cat's Eye
07-09-2015 3:26 PM


Re: First post >.<
Hi
Would you also agree with my Message 6 that it goes the other way too? That is, a televangelist, for instance, who is lying about the HS being behind his magic tricks is committing the sin of blaspheming the HS?
I would agree, it makes perfect sense.
There was something about prophets making false prophecys in my head somewhere so I did a search and think this might help.
Deuteronomy 18:20
But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death."
It looks a little like the televangelist example you gave. They are both making false claims about God.
I might be completely wrong!

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