You made bold declarations about a system and then say you don't even use the system you made bold declarations about. Just like how phat is trying to tell people how to have a relationship when he never had any himself.
I'm not going to discuss color with a blind man.
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The color dark blue is very bright and annoying. It gives people a headache. Usually, men look at this color, they become feminized and act against their nature. I admit that I am blind, so I have never seen this color, but all the popular kids hate this color, so it must be true.
Although, I promised myself that if one of my apps make it to the status of angry birds I'd be hiring an infinite number of monkeys and have them type up and post random messages for this forum as well as others I know.
quote:Windows 8/8.1 is pretty good on a PC with third-party apps that get you away from that horrendous interface.
But this is just it. Even without third party apps, one can simply stay on the desktop all the time.
I have a desktop and the surface pro 3. I hardly ever use the metro interface on my desktop. And as my boyfriend can attest, there's no third party app to do that at all. All I do is just stay on the desktop with my desktop pc. With my surface pro 3, I'm fluid between the 2 interfaces.
That said, 100% of all my apps are worked on nowadays with the surface pro 3.
Anyway, I think the "horrendous interface" and being forced there has been greatly exaggerated.
Touch screen is here to stay. Either MS adapt their OS to accommodate this new tool or die.
Was the first GUI perfect vs the old command line interface? Probably not. And I'd imagine people were predicting fire and brimstone as well if MS didn't kill off the GUI and stay with DOS for all eternity. You know, the same argument that xp and 7 users make nowadays. Why improve? Just stay with xp for all times.
I should add that I'm passionate about topics like this one. And here's why.
I work for an engineering firm. When I first started working for it a few years ago, I had to report to this old guy that was a few million years old. I think he was born right around the time the terror bird was roaming the Earth.
Anyway, I submitted my first report, which wasn't perfect. It was quickly kicked back. He wanted me to hand write everything. I thought ok I was new and he wanted me to do everything by hand first. Well, it turned out that everyone who reported to him had to submit everything by hand. No typed report of any kind. If we had to do long calculations, we could not use excel or any other tool. Everything had to be written out by hand. Even drawings had to be done by hand. Why? He called typed reports "fake reports". It didn't end there.
One time, a contractor asked me if they could use laser and gps to do some layouts. We had another company double check their work, so I didn't see a problem with it. When the million year old boss came out and saw that they were making layouts at the work site using lasers, he was furious. He proclaimed "what if the laser was crooked?"
This was the most anti-technology, anti-progress person I had ever seen in my life. He often told us about the good old days when there were rooms full of drafters drawing out the plans and designs by hand. I'm pretty sure he also misses the good old days when people used hammer and chisel to keep records.
When he retired, we all cheered.
I have a problem with people who keep looking back and long for the good old days. I wrote an LOB app to make my work more efficient and accurate. And while they haven't been able to find any mistake with my printouts using my app, they still hate it. After all, it was bad enough that they had to accept typed out reports using MS office and excel . Now, they claim, they have to accept printouts from this alien thing called an "app".
I've done everything I could to accommodate what they want. All my printouts of calculations have every step of the calculation. Even a simple 2+2 is right there for them to see. But since the work is done by an "app", it must not be real work.
I've already told them. I'll concede if they ever find a mistake. And I know they'd love to find a mistake. I'm still patiently waiting for them to say "aha!"
What you said is still wrong. And since you can't tell the difference between what I said and what you said, it further proves my point that you don't know what you are talking about.
There are plenty of young earth creationists who have taken a biology class in college and also plenty of young earth creationists who have worked on a graduate degree in biology. Doesn't mean they are any less wrong.
You might want to spend some time watching the following lecture.
I used to be a dedicated supporter of linux development. In fact, I used to donate $300/month of my own money to various linux projects. Here's the problem. They were always thousands or tens of thousands of dollars below their goals.
I can't eat on people's good will. If anything, open source has proven to be a failure. I know this because I used to contribute to various open source projects, both with my money and labor. Again, I can't eat people's good will.
There is no doubt that open source software will continue to linger on for many generations to come. But it will be just that. And kudos to all the believers that continue to support it.
Allow me make another guess. You are like a college student, yes?
The only formal programming I ever took was intro to Java in my 1st year. Started taking physics courses and learning Fortran informally seemed a logical choice. After I joined the real life, I figured out that Java, C#, and C++ along with the more visual languages like html and xaml had more practical applications. So, over the last few years I've been learning on my own these things. Along the way, I improved my skills by participating in various projects.
What bothers me nowadays is the freemium movement. One of my apps in the windows store that is paying for our house is considered a little pricier than most. And I've gotten many angry emails from strangers demanding that I make it 99 cents instead of charging $9.99 for it. Their reason? It's only an app, so nothing should cost more than 99 cents. My response is always the same: please use another app where there's no quality at all and the developer never reply to email.
I'm constantly perplexed by people's willingness to make others work for free.
After years of going from language to the other, I've fallen in love with C#. I think it is the perfect language for fake programmers like myself who never had formal training and had to learn everything on my own.
quote:I don't think anyone has a problem with change. But there are a lot of people who have a problem with change for change's sake.
There is no such thing as change for change's sake. Every change has a purpose whether people realize it or not. As a structural engineer as well as an app developer, there have been many design changes that I have made for reasons that are not at all visible to the laymen. I used to try to explain these things to people when they asked me. Nowadays, I Just ignore them.
quote:Is it impossible to improve on the stability of an operating system without forcing people to relearn pointless procedural tasks every few years?
What pointless procedural tasks? The exact same command procedures nowadays are exactly the same as they were 20 years ago.
If you are referring to the start button, more on this later.
quote:Yep. That's what Windows 8 was designed for: to make MS more competitive in the phone OS market.
No, it wasn't. When I read this sentence, I cringed and decided not to engage you directly on this issue. Why?
Try to think of it this way. Suppose you come across a creationist and he tells you that evolution is impossible because it depends on a bunch of random events that somehow creates a skyscraper out of a pile of bricks. You know this perception of the theory of evolution is wrong. Actually, it's not just wrong. It's the same ole line repeated by creationists over and over among themselves that they all believe if they say it out loud they could destroy the tenets of science with it. Most people who are actually educated on this matter would cringe as a natural reaction.
What you said about windows 8 intending to compete with the mobile market has been repeated by many people on the internet so many times that many people have come to believe it is true. Unfortunately, just because a lot of people on the internet like to repeat this line doesn't make it true.
quote:As such it's not very well suited to the kind of real work people use real computers for.
And this is another line that a lot of people like to repeat on the internet. Not at all true, however.
I'm a structural engineer and an app developer. Windows 8/8.1 have made my work a lot easier and more efficient.
quote:I run XP; that's enough pointless flash for me.
Really loved my 2000, but it was a little too slow (the computer itself, not the OS) and I really only updated because I couldn't install anything on the damn thing, and then I just got a whole new system.
I fail to see how windows 8/8.1 affect you enough for you to go out of your way to tell people how bad you perceive it to be.
I have never told anyone to get windows 8/8.1. I always tell people to go with what's most comfortable for them. If xp is enough for you, then I think it's great. You should stick with xp.
As I've said elsewhere, I start having a problem with you when you start trying to force the rest of us to stay with xp.
It's the same position I hold with many other issues, like gay marriage. God bless you if you are oppose to gay marriage and will never marry someone of the same sex. I start having a problem when you try to legislate it for the rest of us.
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