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Discontinuing research about ID

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ringo
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Message 216 of 393 (756504)
04-21-2015 12:15 PM 		Reply to: Message 213 by Dubreuil
04-21-2015 11:41 AM

Dubreuil writes:
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The tone of the conversation becomes increasingly hateful....
I think you've mistaken snickering for hate.
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Message 336 of 393 (759444)
06-11-2015 12:41 PM 		Reply to: Message 325 by GaryG
06-10-2015 9:55 PM

Re: Theory of Intelligent Design - Get it here!
GaryG writes:
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But it helps to have some experience in computer modeling....
You can model pretty much any nonsense on a computer. It doesn't have to have any connection to reality; it only needs to be self-consistent.
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GaryG writes:
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There is way too much vital information to fit in one sentence....
I once had a teacher who said that if you can't explain it to an eight-year-old you don't understand it.
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Message 360 of 393 (759814)
06-15-2015 12:10 PM 		Reply to: Message 359 by mindspawn
06-15-2015 11:57 AM

Re: my problem with intelligent design
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Just the fact that scientist's are currently battling just to copy the process even though the blueprint and the ingredients are already known, is testimony to the impossibility of nature not just copying DNA....
On the contrary, the fact that research is happening is testimony to the possibility.
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Plants make all of the molecules of life from simple constituents like carbon dioxide and water, so we KNOW the reactions are there. It's just a matter of finding out what they are.
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06-15-2015 1:18 PM 		Reply to: Message 364 by mindspawn
06-15-2015 1:11 PM

Re: my problem with intelligent design
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If mankind finds it difficult to copy something using intelligent minds its a little far fetched that nature can design the original spontaneously.
That's an empty statement. Quantum mechanics was "far-fetched" until we began to understand it. We don't slam on the brakes just because somebody thinks an idea is "far-fetched".
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06-16-2015 11:42 AM 		Reply to: Message 367 by mindspawn
06-15-2015 1:40 PM

Re: my problem with intelligent design
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I was merely pointing out the unlikelihood of the original design occurring spontaneously if intelligent minds battle to replicate it.
You're just underlining the fact that intelligent minds can only work with existing processes. ID, even if it could be substantiated, tells us nothing about the origin of the process itself. And if the process already existed, how can you establish a "need' for intelligence to manipulate it?
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Message 392 of 393 (770815)
10-14-2015 1:12 PM 		Reply to: Message 391 by tsig
10-14-2015 12:57 PM

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Sir Bedevere: ...Exactly. So, logically...
Peasant 1: If she weighs the same as a duck... she's made of wood.
Sir Bedevere: And therefore...
Peasant 2: ...A witch!
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