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Author Topic:   There is no evolution or creationism - this is the new Matrix/DNA world view
ringo
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Message 47 of 149 (762362)
07-11-2015 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by TheMatrix/DNA
07-10-2015 4:23 PM


Re: To Cat Sci
TheMatrix/DNA writes:

I am asking you which points in this theory is not tangible with reality....


Which part of your "theory" is tangible enough to land a probe on an asteroid?

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Message 59 of 149 (762464)
07-12-2015 2:18 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by TheMatrix/DNA
07-12-2015 3:35 AM


Re: To Ringo
TheMatrix/DNA writes:

Ringo, I have sent a suggestion to NASA with mechanisms for to build a robot-machine that could reproduce itself in Mars, populating Mars with productive robots.


Specifically, how would your formula handle that problem? How would it differ from the mundane Newtonian mechanics with relativistic overtones?

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Message 65 of 149 (762668)
07-14-2015 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by TheMatrix/DNA
07-13-2015 2:53 PM


Re: To Ringo
TheMatrix/DNA writes:

A fundamental lesson from Matrix/DNA's systems models is that Physics and Math has few applications for understanding and getting data about systems.


No, a fundamental lesson that YOU don't seem to have learned is that Physics and Math are pretty good at solving real-world problems, like landing a probe on an asteroid. You need to show how your system could solve that problem AS WELL as Physics and Math do. Then you can move ahead to show how your system is "better".

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ringo
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Message 71 of 149 (762756)
07-15-2015 3:10 PM
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07-14-2015 11:01 PM


Re: To Ringo
TheMatrix/DNA writes:

But... landing a probe on an asteroid is not an issue related to systems ( natural systems), it is more related to engineering d technology.


What's the difference? What's the point of a lot of woo-woo "ideas" if they don't have any effect on the real world?

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ringo
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Message 79 of 149 (762794)
07-16-2015 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by TheMatrix/DNA
07-15-2015 6:38 PM


Re: To Ringo
TheMatrix/DNA writes:

The Humanity's life can be unsupportable in this planet because we are not understanding the geological and climate changes because we does not understand this planet as a system yet.


We understand the "system" well enough to know that pouring more CO2 into the atmosphere is making it worse; therefore, pouring less CO2 into the atmosphere will make it less worse. SPECIFICALLY, how do you propose to improve on that situation by "understanding the system" better?

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Message 92 of 149 (762970)
07-18-2015 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by TheMatrix/DNA
07-18-2015 12:36 PM


Re: To Dr Adequate
TheMatrix/DNA writes:

My composition is about the inner features of natural systems,, its origins, its inner functionality and identity.


Woo.

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Message 108 of 149 (765765)
08-05-2015 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by ICANT
08-04-2015 1:46 PM


Re: To Percy
ICANT writes:

I also believe that new information would be required to be added to the DNA of any creature before it could evolve from a previous form.


You don't need to "add new information". You just need to change the existing information.

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Message 116 of 149 (766084)
08-11-2015 11:57 AM
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08-11-2015 10:56 AM


Re: To Percy
ICANT writes:

Which the correction mechanism's in the DNA would correct.


The fact that there IS a correction mechanism shows that the operation of DNA is not perfect - i.e. the correction mechanism doesn't always work either.

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ringo
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Message 134 of 149 (766437)
08-18-2015 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by ICANT
08-18-2015 11:58 AM


Re: To Dr Adequate
ICANT writes:

So you have absolutely no evidence that evolution has taken place.


I have a photo of myself beside a car with the Manhattan skyline in the background. I have another photo of myself beside the same car with the St. Louis Gateway Arch in the background. I have another photo of myself beside the same car with the Golden Gate Bridge in the background.

You're saying that I have absolutely no evidence that I drove from Atlantic to Pacific.


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ringo
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Message 143 of 149 (766459)
08-18-2015 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by ICANT
08-18-2015 1:13 PM


Re: To Dr Adequate
ICANT writes:

You have positive evidence that you were in each city with the same car.

You could have took the auto train and got off and spent a few days in each town.

OR you could have took a cargo plane and flew to each city and took your pictures.


Certainly, you could have all kinds of alternative hypotheses - but you would need evidence to back them up. What the available evidence actually shows is that I drove. The evidence may not point to an "absolutely correct" conclusion but you are wrong to suggest that the evidence doesn't point to that conclusion.

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