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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Say what? I suppose now that you've explained it, there is no point in me asking for your algorithm. I'm not surprised that you've never encountered anything on the internet contrary to your ideas.
A good friend once told me that there was a line from Blazing Saddles for every occasion. I have such a line in mind, but I wonder if anyone else might have one. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Explanation is insufficient to establish falsifiability. Does your theory make predictions which can be shown to be correct or incorrect by some experiment. If your theory provides only explanations and no predictions, then it is not falsifiable. A theory that can explain every conceivable outcome predicts no outcome and explains nothing. But in particular such a theory is not falsifiable. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
More likely source of the ideas here and on the web page are one and the same. quote: Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
We were well overdue.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html I think we could easily assign the following points. Someone following the discussion more closely could surely find many more. 3 points for every statement that is logically inconsistent. 10 points for each claim that quantum mechanics is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence). 10 points for beginning the description of your theory by saying how long you have been working on it. (10 more for emphasizing that you worked on your own.) 10 points for each statement along the lines of "I'm not good at math, but my theory is conceptually right, so all I need is for someone to express it in terms of equations".' 20 points for each favorable comparison of yourself to Newton or claim that classical mechanics is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence). 40 points for comparing yourself to Galileo, suggesting that a modern-day Inquisition is hard at work on your case, and so on. 50 points for claiming you have a revolutionary theory but giving no concrete testable predictions. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Sure. I'll go with this one for three points.
Why should I avoid such things. After all your theory covers everything, right? If you don't recognize any cosmic facts turning up in your searches because everything you do find is mere theory, then is your claim that your own work matches fact of any value? Don't you spend more time dismissing than finding agreement? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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I imagine that if you were playing a game of draw poker, you would always stand pat with your original cards because most of the cards in the deck would be detrimental to your hand. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
So you would discard three bad cards and draw new ones from the deck even though the cards from the deck are in random order. Why? And what is the difference between a beneficial mutation and one that adds new information? Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I'm not afraid of your math. In any event, a poker game has very little to do with math because everybody competent knows the relative probabilities.
How exactly is that accomplished, ICANT. You are describing a possible result and not a mechanism. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
If the human brain contains all of the information necessary to produce a sculpture of Platos head, then how can that same brain do mathematics? Seriously ICANT, this has got to be one of the lamest arguments every made. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Let's restore the context to your claim.
Quite frankly it is difficult to tell what you are claiming happens. You keep spraying a single worm and eventually that worm produces immune worms? I don't believe such a thing happens but I don't believe this is what you mean even though it is literally what you said. I think you meant to say that you were spraying succeeding generations of worms. If so my question to you is what type of analysis of the worms did you do that allows you to tell us that the immune worms do not continue new information in their DNA that their ancestors did not have. How would you recognize new information and distinguish that from a beneficial mutation that did not add new information? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Except that your question was not a query regarding 'how' information could be added to the DNA, now was it? Here is your question:
Your question has a built in bad argument. Just because the information is sufficient to build a human body does not mean that said information is insufficient for other tasks. I provided an example intended to point out the problem. Secondly, if a mutation does not add information, then your question has a simple answer. Some change to the current information, via mutation, is what is needed. If you don't believe that a mutation is new information, then I challenge you to show that something other than mutation is needed. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Sorry admin.
Edited by NoNukes, : self censored as being off topic Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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