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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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This is a thread where those who believe that there was some world wide flood or that one or more of the Biblical floods actually happened can present the model, method, process, procedure or mechanism that produced specific things seen in reality. To attempt to keep it somewhat organized one item will be considered at a time and once a satisfactory model, method, process, procedure or mechanism has been presented we can then move to the next example that needs to be explained.
The first question is "How did the flood sort things so that there is a layer where there are no chordates while layers above do have chordates?"Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped! |
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Admin Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
Thread copied here from the How does a flood ... thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Bump in the hope that someone can explain the process, model, method, procedure or mechanism for the flood to sort things so that there is a layer where there are no chordates while layers above do have chordates?
Of course there is magic I guess or "Insert Miracle Here".Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
The no chodate layers are antediluvian and contain just a sampling of the primitive sea life that existed. Mammals and chordates were simply not fossilized in large numbers until the flood.
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Good start. Let's assume that is true for a start and move to the next question.
So the flood did not have anything to do with that layer. What is the process, model, method, procedure that allowed the flood to sort things so that there was only sea life while the layers above contain sea life and also land plants but no seed bearing plants?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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I can continue to play the game, but I don't want to mock creationists by making up straw men or, worse, to write them into a corner that they would not have argued themselves into.
I think a creationists, in general, can go a few rounds like this, but cannot explain every detail. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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starlite Member (Idle past 3163 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
It is incorrect to claim that creation believers are in a corner because you think they believe that all layers were flood deposited.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1693 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It is incorrect to claim that creation believers are in a corner because you think they believe that all layers were flood deposited. You would be right that most creationists don't think all the layers were deposited by the Flood, in fact I'm not sure how many -- if any -- do think that, but I do. The layers are too uniform to have had different causes, and the most sensible explanation is water that covered the whole planet. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: You would be right that most creationists don't think all the layers were deposited by the Flood, in fact I'm not sure how many -- if any -- do think that, but I do. The layers are too uniform to have had different causes, and the most sensible explanation is water that covered the whole planet. So here is the first question:"How did the flood sort things so that there is a layer where there are no chordates while layers above do have chordates?" What is the model, method, process, procedure or mechanism that explains that sorting?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1693 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't know, it just did.
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Will that be the answer to explain each layer?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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starlite Member (Idle past 3163 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
Maybe they were deposited faster than they think? That doesn't have to mean a flood. My thought is that each geologic layer represents something closer to a few centuries, than millions of years.
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The Biblical floods never lasted longer than a year according to the fables so anything that took even a century is not related to one of the Biblical flood myths.
This topic is about flood mechanisms, we can deal with other Young Earth nonsense in other threads. So here is the first question:"How did the flood sort things so that there is a layer where there are no chordates while layers above do have chordates?" What is the model, method, process, procedure or mechanism that explains that sorting? Edited by jar, : appalin spallinAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2355 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Maybe they were deposited faster than they think? That doesn't have to mean a flood. My thought is that each geologic layer represents something closer to a few centuries, than millions of years. And your evidence for that is???? Oh, in framing your answer it might be advisable to study the scientific evidence for millions of years and have some evidence-based refutation. Opinions and "thoughts" don't count for much. Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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starlite Member (Idle past 3163 days) Posts: 83 Joined: |
The fast depositing is related because it fits the timeframe actually. The flood did not deposit all the layers that is a silly strawman.
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