How 'bout you show the efficacy of the Black Lives Matter movement?
The efficacy of the Black Lives Matter movement is irrelevant. I'm only countering your claim that it's "evil".
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Why don't you offer something other than irrelevant and baseless accusations of racism and blind support for a demonstratively unsuccessful effort to improve the lives of U.S. blacks?
Are you changing your argument from "just a clever cover for criminal hooliganism" to "unsuccessful"?
Perhaps it is true that people whose formative years were after the 60s and 70s have no idea of what the role of protest and even civil disobedience are all about, and just cannot imagine anything other than a city council meeting having any important effect.
Surprising attitude though from someone who thinks an armed rebellion/race riot is democracy in action.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
One of the most sure-fire way to make black lives matter is to keep non-violent African Americans out of prisons, and dismantling the War on Drugs is probably the best place to start.
According to a Denver Post analysis of data provided by the Colorado Judicial Branch, the number of cases filed in state court alleging at least one marijuana offense plunged 77 percent between 2012 and 2013. The decline is most notable for charges of petty marijuana possession, which dropped from an average of 714 per month during the first nine months of 2012 to 133 per month during the same period in 2013 a decline of 81 percent.
That may have been expected after all, people over 21 can now legally possess up to an ounce of marijuana. But The Post's analysis shows state prosecutors also pursued far fewer cases for marijuana crimes that remain illegal in Colorado.
For instance, charges for possessing more than 12 ounces of marijuana dropped by 73 percent, and cases alleging possession with intent to distribute fewer than 5 pounds of marijuana dipped by 70 percent. Even charges for public consumption of marijuana fell statewide, by 17 percent, although Denver police have increased their number of citations issued for public consumption. . . .
Marijuana advocates, meanwhile, praised the drop in prosecutions even for things that remain illegal under state law because it lessens what they say is the racially biased impact of marijuana enforcement. A report last year from the American Civil Liberties Union found that blacks in Colorado were arrested for marijuana crimes at a rate nearly double that of whites. Overall, the report found arrests for marijuana possession in 2010 made up more than 60 percent of all drug-offense arrests.
"We're talking about not only saving the state time and money," said Art Way, a policy manager in Colorado for the Drug Policy Alliance, a supporter of legalization, "but we're no longer criminalizing primarily young adults, black and brown males primarily, with the collateral consequences of a drug charge."
A bunch of mile-high stoners have done more that matters to black lives than the folks of BLM could ever hope to.
BLM has failed, and will continue to fail, because what it tries to accomplish has nothing to do with its ultimate goal of improving the lives of black Americans.
Then perhaps you should "try again" and restate your argument. Because now it seems that you're all about the "effectiveness" of BLM, as if this one incident is the sole action, and again ignoring the fact that she isn't even a part of it.
Please explain how your argument about the "effectiveness" of the protest actions of BLM isn't precisely as I described: Complaining that black people should be nice and quiet and stop making waves and instead just ask politely for their rights.
Let's not forget that the very first question MLK was asked when he first appeared on Meet the Press was:
Dr. King, the former president, Harry Truman, recently said this, and I quote, If anyone came to my store and sat down, I would throw him out. Private business has its own rights and can do what it wants." Now, President, former President Truman is an old friend of the Negro, I believe. Isn’t this an indication that the sit-in strikes are doing the race, the Negro race, more harm than good?
How is your argument any different? Why are things different now?
Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time. Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.
If you could demonstrate the effectiveness of BLM on even one issue capable of actually improving the live of African Americans, you would have done so by now.
What benefit has it had on African Americans? How has it made black lives matter?
I don't really know anything about the Black Lives Matter movement, nor what they do, but your demand for tangible results seems a bit unreasonable, since they have only been in existence a couple of years at most. If we were to brand every political movement that hadn't acheived something clear and concrete within its first few months a failure and a distraction then we should probably just abandon all political activism,
Similarly, the legislation you're demanding to see the obvious benefits from was signed into law 37 days ago. Patience might seem reasonable.
Nicely stated and extremely well illustrated, Rrhain. Absolutely the best argument in this thread. MLK speaks out near the beginning of a decades long movement, at a time when all he had to show for his efforts was his church being bombed and the public including the president had nothing but utter disdain for his results so far.
Unfortunately your efforts flew way over the head (and outside the heart) of the intended audience. But the rest of us got the point.
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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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