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Message 13 of 142 (767553)
08-30-2015 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Percy
08-30-2015 12:54 PM


Percy writes:

With self-driving cars, not only are you protected against your own idiocy, but everyone else's, too.


That would only apply if all cars were self-driving. If there are any human-driven cars on the road, the self-driving ones will have to be able to predict idiocy. How easy is it to make software idiot-proof?

And call me a cynic but I expect that if people have a choice between self-driving cars and driving themselves, it's the idiots who will be behind the wheel.


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Message 36 of 142 (767818)
09-02-2015 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by NoNukes
09-02-2015 12:17 AM


Re: Google Goes Bladeless, Plus Random Thoughts
NoNukes writes:

Maybe having self driving cars might mean fewer traffic jams.


You won't even need to stop at intersections. The traffic in both directions will be neatly spaced so that you can cross another vehicle's path, missing it by inches.

You may want shutters on the windows so you don't have to see that.


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Message 40 of 142 (767907)
09-03-2015 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Jon
09-02-2015 6:45 PM


Re: Google Goes Bladeless, Plus Random Thoughts
Jon writes:

Self-operated trollies (on tracks) are the best approach for now;


Far from being the "best approach", putting in a whole new infrastructure (tracks) would not even be on the table for most jurisdictions.

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Message 43 of 142 (772393)
11-13-2015 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Percy
11-13-2015 8:12 AM


Re: Apparently Google is Serious about 25 mph
Percy writes:

Well, ignoring the occasional tractor and slowing due to construction, obstacles and weather conditions, I'd say none. Since the opportunities to use self driving features that only operate at 25 mph and lower seem minuscule (traffic jams, driveways, some residential streets, etc.), what is Google thinking?


Decades ago, an engineering professor at our local university was developing a self-driving tractor, with a positioning system similar to GPS. Since it could work 24-7, the equipment it pulled could be much smaller, with corresponding lower costs for the farmer.

If anything, I'd say there's more potential for self-driving in commercial and industrial vehicles, not less. After all, cars are still successfully marketed as "fun to drive".


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Message 64 of 142 (780771)
03-20-2016 2:38 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Hyroglyphx
03-20-2016 12:43 AM


Re: How Safe Are Autonomous Vehicles?
Hyroglyphx writes:

The point is, how comfortable will people really be with just letting the car drive when at least 50% of driving is constantly scanning for threats and responding to those threats?


Most people will be so glued to their smartphones that when they arrive at their destination the car will have to gently nudge them out the door.

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Message 72 of 142 (830053)
03-20-2018 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Percy
03-20-2018 1:04 PM


Re: Driverless Car Causes First Fatality
Percy writes:

Police have viewed footage from two of the vehicle’s cameras....


On the bright side, all of those sensors should make it easier to figure out what did happen when accidents do occur.

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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Message 91 of 142 (830293)
03-26-2018 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Stile
03-26-2018 12:44 PM


Re: Video of the Pedestrian Collision
Stile writes:

... but it does seem that "something" isn't right with this pedestrian. Perhaps a mental issue? Perhaps headphones? Perhaps an indignant "vehicles stop for me!" attitude? Perhaps a family emergency or other super-important issue is on this lady's mind at the moment? Something else?


Suicide by self-driving car? An ill-conceived bet that, "I can fool that thing."?

An honest discussion is more of a peer review than a pep rally. My toughest critics here are the people who agree with me. -- ringo

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Message 127 of 142 (845154)
12-12-2018 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by Diomedes
12-12-2018 3:34 PM


Re: Part Of The Problem
Diomedes writes:

Makes me wonder how they pronounce 'Brexit'.


Imagine using two Siris to do the negotiations.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 137 of 142 (845208)
12-13-2018 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 132 by Tangle
12-13-2018 3:19 AM


Tangle writes:

But more importantly it removes the requirement to own a car or even rent one.... Imagine all those empty parking lots. - all that new space.


There's an incentive for the auto industry.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 139 of 142 (845210)
12-13-2018 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 138 by Tangle
12-13-2018 10:59 AM


Tangle writes:

Yeh but their incentive is to still have a business at all.


They'll melt down every whale and cut down every tree to make fuel before they go gentle into that good night. And the public will support them whole-heartedly. (Have you heard about the kerfuffle over pipelines in Canada?)

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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